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Game 158 Tigers @ royals Wednesday Sept 27 2017 8:10 pm EST

The Kansas City Royals rallied from a three-run deficit to beat Detroit 7-4 on Wednesday night, the Tigers' ninth straight loss.

The Tigers are 4-22 in September and have been outscored 68-30 in the skid. The last time Detroit lost nine in a row was Sept. 1-9, 2005.

Holding the slimmest of leads in the bottom of the seventh inning against the Royals, right-handed reliever Drew VerHagen allowed a two-run home run to Paulo Orlando.

Zimmermann posted his first quality start since Aug. 7 against the Pirates, allowing two runs in six innings.
He allowed just four hits ? all singles ? while walking one and striking out three. The veteran righty?s slider was sharp and he commanded both sides of home plate with his fastball. It was a good ending to an otherwise bad season.

As researched by MLB.com?s Jason Beck, Zimmermann became the first Tigers starting pitcher with an ERA over six with 29 or more starts in a season.

Bullpen bad: It further spiraled for the Tigers in the eighth inning, when the Royals scored three more times. Whit Merrifield opened the half inning with a single, chasing VerHagen, before lefty Chad Bell allowed a double, an intentional walk, a run-scoring wild pitch and an unintentional walk.
Bell was pulled after a fielder?s choice at home in favor of closer Shane Greene but Greene allowed a two-run double to Alcides Escobar.
The double sailed over Nick Castellanos? head in rightfield.

Tigers robbed: The Tigers had a great chance to tie the score in the eighth off lefty Alexander. With two outs, Dixon Machado and Andrew Romine, putting the tying run on second. Then Jose Iglesias sent a grounder toward left field. Escobar made a diving stop at shortstop to his knees, and flipped to second for the forceout.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/tigers-...463#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=492463
Boxscore.

Roars
Jordan Zimmermann: He didn?t exactly dominate out there, but six innings of two run ball is a solid final start of the season.

Nicholas Castellanos: Singled and doubled in this one. Dating back to August 28th, the Tigers new right fielder has only gone hitless in a game twice.

Alex Presley: A three-hit game and a pair of runs scored.

Jeimer Candelario: Two hits and three RBI driven in for the young third baseman.

Hisses
The bullpen, over and over again.
 
The mistake was not trading him in the previous off season. There just didn't end up being enough teams looking for a rental OF bat at the deadline to drive his value up. We had to take the best deal on the table and that's what they did.

Should we have held on to him and got nothing?

Maybe the Tigers brass believed that their team was a serious contender, while much of their fanbase knew that they didn't have the pitching to be. If so, any preseason deal for JD, was very unlikely.
 
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Maybe the Tigers brass believed that their team was a serious contender, while much of their fanbase knew that they didn't have the pitching to be. If so, any preseason deal for JD, was very unlikely.

didn't the Tigers say they were "open for business" last off season....specifically at the winter meetings?
 
didn't the Tigers say they were "open for business" last off season....specifically at the winter meetings?

"Business" being Maybin?

They apparently weren't offered enough, if anything for JV, JD, and/or JUp.
 
"Business" being Maybin?

They apparently weren't offered enough, if anything for JV, JD, and/or JUp.


And yet they settled for very little.

JD cannot be given a qualifying offer by ARZ. Pending FAs, trading in their last year, must spend the entire year with a team in order for that to happen. Going into the season with JD, meant they should have stuck with him. You then give him a qualifying offer and if he turns it down, you get a fairly decent draft pick for him (probably a better prospect than what you got in return). ARZ trading for JD, meant they got less than a half a season of JD. What is that worth? They do not get controlling rights. He can sign with anyone at year's end. DET would have gotten far more in return had they trading him in the offseason. And if that wasn't enough value in their opinion, then they shouldn't have ever traded him in season.

The trading on JV, JUp and JD all amounted to a "fire sell" . And I am not sure why the media haven't come out a stated that fact. No, we weren't going to make the playoffs with them, but we wouldn't then be the laughing stocks of MLB.
 
I just don't want 100 loss seasin. Hey Rebbiv is the number 1 pick that much better then 2 or 3 ? Just asking about the prospects that are out there ?
 
I just don't want 100 loss seasin. Hey Rebbiv is the number 1 pick that much better then 2 or 3 ? Just asking about the prospects that are out there ?


We are talking about Chadd and Avila making the pick. We might as well have the 100th pick. But ultimately, it depends on the direction a team takes. Some teams avoid taking High Schoolers. They are high risk, high reward. 2-year college and/or 4-year are more known commodities. Additionally, it is easier to project positional players than pitchers.

Guess who has focused on high schoolers and pitchers in the draft over the last 10 years?
 
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