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Old 12-09-2017, 10:08 AM   #1
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Game 13: Lions @ Bucs Thread

Detroit Lions (6-6) @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-8)

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Injury Report
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Lions
T Rick Wagner (ankle) - OUT
DE Ezekiel Ansah (ankle) - Questionable
G T.J. Lang (foot) - Questionable
T Emmett Cleary (ankle) - Questionable
QB Matthew Stafford (hand) - Questionable
RB Ameer Abdullah (neck) - Questionable
CB Jamal Agnew (knee) - Questionable
T Corey Robinson (foot) - Questionable
C Travis Swanson (knee) - Questionable
DE Cornelius Washington (shoulder) - Questionable
P Sam Martin (right foot) - Questionable


Ravens
CB Vernon Hargreaves (hamstring) - OUT
DT Clinton McDonald (back) - OUT
S Josh Robinson (hamstring) - OUT
S T.J. Ward (concussion) - OUT
DE Ryan Russell (knee) - Questionable


Series History
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The Lions are 30-26 against the Bucs
Last Game: 12/7/2014, Lions 34 Bucs 17
Last Game in Tampa Bay: 9/11/2011, Lions 27 Bucs 20
Last Loss in Tampa Bay: 10/2/2005, Bucs 17 Lions 13
Recent Games: The Lions have won 3 of the last 4 meetings



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Old 12-09-2017, 10:08 AM   #2
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Football Outsiders Stats

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Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Detroit 3.6% (15th)
Tampa Bay -15.9% (25th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Detroit -0.8% (17th)
Tampa Bay -17.9% (25th)

Offense DVOA
Detroit 2.4% (14th)
Tampa Bay 1.3% (15th)

Defense DVOA
Detroit 4.5% (20th)
Tampa Bay 13.5% (31st)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 5.7% (4th)
Tampa Bay -3.7% (24th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Detroit 2.4% (15th)
Tampa Bay -0.2% (16th)

Pass Offense
Tampa Bay 21.8% (12th)
Detroit 20.1% (13th)

Rush Offense
Tampa Bay -16.3% (26th)
Detroit -21.9% (29th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Detroit 9.1% (27th)
Tampa Bay 14.2% (31st)

Pass Defense
Detroit 10.4% (16th)
Tampa Bay 28.7% (31st)

Rush Defense
Tampa Bay -4.4% (22nd)
Detroit -2.3% (25th)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Tampa Bay 3.97 (17th)
Detroit 3.08 (32nd)

Power Success
Tampa Bay 65% (11th)
Detroit 29% (32nd)

Stuffed
Tampa Bay 21% (14th)
Detroit 31% (32nd)

2nd Level Yards
Tampa Bay 0.95 (28th)
Detroit 0.92 (30th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.63 (17th)
Tampa Bay 0.42 (29th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Tampa Bay 6.2% (11th)
Detroit 7.9% (25th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Tampa Bay 4.12 (17th)
Detroit 4.37 (25th)

Power Success
Tampa Bay 56% (8th)
Detroit 58% (11th)

Stuffed
Tampa Bay 22% (12th)
Detroit 18% (28th)

2nd Level Yards
Tampa Bay 1.21 (21st)
Detroit 1.28 (27th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.75 (17th)
Tampa Bay 0.89 (23rd)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 6.0% (23rd)
Tampa Bay 4.2% (32nd)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Detroit -0.84 (18th)
Tampa Bay -3.84 (26th)

Net Points/Drive
Detroit 0.02 (15th)
Tampa Bay -0.42 (23rd)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Tampa Bay -0.012 (18th)
Detroit -0.025 (21st)

Offense Yards/Drive
Tampa Bay 31.17 (11th)
Detroit 30.21 (18th)

Offense Points/Drive
Detroit 1.99 (12th)
Tampa Bay 1.74 (21st)

Offense DSR
Tampa Bay 0.704 (11th)
Detroit 0.677 (19th)

Defense Yards/Drive
Detroit 31.05 (20th)
Tampa Bay 35.01 (28th)

Defense Points/Drive
Detroit 1.96 (17th)
Tampa Bay 2.16 (31st)

Defense DSR
Detroit 0.702 (23rd)
Tampa Bay 0.716 (27th)
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:16 AM   #3
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looks like two mediocre teams
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:33 AM   #4
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looks like two mediocre teams
Banged up defense, mostly. D-line Ayers and Spence hobbled most of the season, Gholston dealing with a neck injury lately. Secondary dealing with Grimes and now Hargreaves out. On offense they had the Martin suspension to begin the year and Jameis hindered with shoulder injury, was out but now playing through it. Really an 8-4 team but screwed over by injuries.
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Old 12-09-2017, 11:20 AM   #5
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Banged up defense, mostly. D-line Ayers and Spence hobbled most of the season, Gholston dealing with a neck injury lately. Secondary dealing with Grimes and now Hargreaves out. On offense they had the Martin suspension to begin the year and Jameis hindered with shoulder injury, was out but now playing through it. Really an 8-4 team but screwed over by injuries.
8-4.....you forgot refs blowing calls and weather......that's an 11-1 team really.

Stafford wins this game and it's the equivalent of a Super Bowl victory.....which would be his 17th true Super Bowl win.

A record that could only be broken by an Ebron/Stafford love child.

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Old 12-09-2017, 11:45 AM   #6
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If they lose this game, leave Caldwell on the runway.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:39 PM   #7
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think i'll skip this one.
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:39 PM   #8
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I don't see us winning this game...and that's pretty sad. Unless the defense can go back to the beginning of the year when they were routinely causing 3 turnovers a game.
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:54 PM   #9
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I'm hoping we have a play with 9 guys on the field again. Or maybe try to break it with 8.
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:25 PM   #10
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How far will we be down to start the game this week? 10-0, 10-0, 13-0 or 20-0?
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