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Old 11-14-2017, 02:19 PM   #441
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Which plays in particular didn't you like? Or are you just assuming because they failed it was bad play calling


Be specific. Give the play, what they called and what play you would have called. Be real specific on the routes and protection schemes you would have used. What were the hot routes you want. What personnel are you using KDP. Please respond
You don't have to be specific when we continue to run vs an 8 man box and throw vs a 5 or 6 man box. That's generally stupid.



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Old 11-14-2017, 02:26 PM   #442
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LOL there is no running QBR. There is one QBR. And QB rating as well. Stafford had 118 rating. That is what matters.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400951563


Notice there is no QBR under the rushing stats. Hughes got caught in a lie.

Stafford did much much much much much much better than Kizer in this game. Admit it Hughes


Lions defense gave up 24 mainly due to running. Browns had two shorter fields for their first 10 points too. It was a solid defensive day. Plus 2 turnovers forced with a defensive TD. 4 sacks.
Hughes not lying. Stafford 55 qbr. Which had nothing to do with my original point but it still feels good to make lkp squirm and prove him wrong time and time again. Kizer top 5 after cams nice performance.

2017 Regular Season NFL Leaders

RKPLAYERRESULTPTS ADDEDPASSRUNPENALTYTOTAL EPAQB PLAYSRAW QBRTOTAL QBR1Case Keenum, MINW*38-30*@ WSH in Wk 109.511.1-0.30.010.73098.998.72Cam Newton, CARW*45-21*vs MIA in Wk 108.07.42.80.310.54492.890.03C.J. Beathard, SFW*31-21*vs NYG in Wk 105.25.92.2-0.18.02992.587.34Tom Brady, NEW*41-16*@ DEN in Wk 103.23.9-0.40.24.63876.683.35DeShone Kizer, CLEL*38-24*@ DET in Wk 103.62.63.70.36.84973.678.26Matt Ryan, ATLW*27-7*vs DAL in Wk 103.25.10.00.26.03180.878.07Kirk Cousins, WSHL*38-30*vs MIN in Wk 102.95.00.7-0.16.05069.777.58Brett Hundley, GBW*23-16*@ CHI in Wk 101.81.21.40.44.83169.374.99Eli Manning, NYGL*31-21*@ SF in Wk 102.84.30.00.15.14371.669.710Ben Roethlisberger, PITW*20-17*@ IND in Wk 101.95.0-0.50.45.43568.668.5RKPLAYERRESULTPTS ADDEDPASSRUNPENALTYTOTAL EPAQB PLAYSRAW QBRTOTAL QBR11Drew Brees, NOW*47-10*@ BUF in Wk 101.73.20.30.54.03069.366.712Philip Rivers, LACL*20-17*@ JAX in Wk 10-0.43.30.00.33.64046.464.413Jay Cutler, MIAL*45-21*@ CAR in Wk 100.52.90.00.02.93954.461.214Matthew Stafford, DETW*38-24*vs CLE in Wk 102.41.92.00.35.83473.555.115Russell Wilson, SEAW*22-16*@ ARI in Wk 10-0.52.4-0.3-0.24.04546.354.2

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Old 11-14-2017, 02:28 PM   #443
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Hughes not lying. Stafford 55 qbr. Which had nothing to do with my original point but it still feels good to make lkp squirm and prove him wrong time and time again. Kizer top 5 after cams nice performance.

2017 Regular Season NFL Leaders

RKPLAYERRESULTPTS ADDEDPASSRUNPENALTYTOTAL EPAQB PLAYSRAW QBRTOTAL QBR1Case Keenum, MINW*38-30*@ WSH in Wk 109.511.1-0.30.010.73098.998.72Cam Newton, CARW*45-21*vs MIA in Wk 108.07.42.80.310.54492.890.03C.J. Beathard, SFW*31-21*vs NYG in Wk 105.25.92.2-0.18.02992.587.34Tom Brady, NEW*41-16*@ DEN in Wk 103.23.9-0.40.24.63876.683.35DeShone Kizer, CLEL*38-24*@ DET in Wk 103.62.63.70.36.84973.678.26Matt Ryan, ATLW*27-7*vs DAL in Wk 103.25.10.00.26.03180.878.07Kirk Cousins, WSHL*38-30*vs MIN in Wk 102.95.00.7-0.16.05069.777.58Brett Hundley, GBW*23-16*@ CHI in Wk 101.81.21.40.44.83169.374.99Eli Manning, NYGL*31-21*@ SF in Wk 102.84.30.00.15.14371.669.710Ben Roethlisberger, PITW*20-17*@ IND in Wk 101.95.0-0.50.45.43568.668.5RKPLAYERRESULTPTS ADDEDPASSRUNPENALTYTOTAL EPAQB PLAYSRAW QBRTOTAL QBR11Drew Brees, NOW*47-10*@ BUF in Wk 101.73.20.30.54.03069.366.712Philip Rivers, LACL*20-17*@ JAX in Wk 10-0.43.30.00.33.64046.464.413Jay Cutler, MIAL*45-21*@ CAR in Wk 100.52.90.00.02.93954.461.214Matthew Stafford, DETW*38-24*vs CLE in Wk 102.41.92.00.35.83473.555.115Russell Wilson, SEAW*22-16*@ ARI in Wk 10-0.52.4-0.3-0.24.04546.354.2
There is no where it says 55.2. He had a 73 QB like Kizer. QBR is meaningless. 118 QB rating is what matters. Stafford back in the top 10 in QB rating.

LOL hughes. You are such a joke
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:32 PM   #444
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here is the link for week 10:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/type/player-week

List Stafford total QBR of 55.1

The reason for the adjustment is because the browns suck. And a 55 means he did slightly better then average against a 0-9 team. Which is fair, because his first half was pretty bad

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Old 11-14-2017, 02:33 PM   #445
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There is no where it says 55.2. He had a 73 QB like Kizer. QBR is meaningless. 118 QB rating is what matters. Stafford back in the top 10 in QB rating.

LOL hughes. You are such a joke
I thought you said QB rating isn't a QB stat
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:36 PM   #446
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I thought you said QB rating isn't a QB stat
It's both a team and QB stat. When the QB has a good one it's doing his job and the team is allowing him to do his job. If it's bad it could be the QB or it could be the team.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:53 PM   #447
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Which plays in particular didn't you like? Or are you just assuming because they failed it was bad play calling


Be specific. Give the play, what they called and what play you would have called. Be real specific on the routes and protection schemes you would have used. What were the hot routes you want. What personnel are you using KDP. Please respond
1st down run calls are what really chaps my ass, they result in a very minimal gains, a loss of yards, or a holding call. Be creative on first down, worst case you waste a down, which a run is anyway. I'd rather see a reverse to GT on 1st down than a 3 yard loss by AA that had no chance of going anywhere, because it was sniffed out by the d before the play was run

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Old 11-14-2017, 03:54 PM   #448
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1st down run calls are what really chaps my ass, they result in a very minimal gains, a loss of yards, or a holding call. Be creative on first down, worst case you waste a down, which a run is anyway. I'd rather see a reverse to GT on 1st down than a 3 yard loss by AA that had no chance of going anywhere, because it was sniffed out by the d before the play was run
In the Celevland game:

We ran on first down 12 times
We passed on first down 11 times.

8 of the run plays gained 5 of more yards (67%)
4 of the pass plays gained 5 of more yards. (36%)

3 of the run plays gained 0 or negative yards (25%)
5 of the pass plays gained 0 or negative yards (45%)


Also like to point out, 1 of the 5+ yards "pass plays" was a Stafford scramble, but I counted it as a passing play since that was the original play design.

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Old 11-14-2017, 05:58 PM   #449
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In the Celevland game:

We ran on first down 12 times
We passed on first down 11 times.

8 of the run plays gained 5 of more yards (67%)
4 of the pass plays gained 5 of more yards. (36%)

3 of the run plays gained 0 or negative yards (25%)
5 of the pass plays gained 0 or negative yards (45%)


Also like to point out, 1 of the 5+ yards "pass plays" was a Stafford scramble, but I counted it as a passing play since that was the original play design.
1 game, go back to the other 7 games we ran the ball terribly but still insisted on running the ball into a wall of defenders expecting the run

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Old 11-14-2017, 06:32 PM   #450
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Just going off watching... but everytime we try to run while in an obvious run formation goes for a negative gain. Then we never try to come back and pass or play action out of that formation. So why the fuck are we trying it in the first place?

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