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Old 08-11-2017, 12:40 PM   #11
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You probably turned it off when big shot (Jaydee Hanson) said something along these lines;

Got 3000 people dying per year in US from salmonella and other things we eat.

Than comparing it to 9/11 for the well..... fear factor. Don't know what he means by other things we eat, but I haven't heard of any massive salmonella outbreaks in the US.
There is a point to made about fear mongering in this nation, and what we fear monger compared to what really kills us. If it scaled with the impact, all the cable news channels would be freaking out all the time over overeating and obesity.
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:33 PM   #12
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Everybody dies. Not everybody eats healthy food.
Exactly.

Besides what's "healthy" du jour?

Is it vegan today?

Is it Paleo today?

Is it the "Eat for Your Type" model?

I was at my leanest and my labs were at their best when I adhered to a virtually a completely Paleo diet.

I'm getting fairly back to it but I do like starch some.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:01 PM   #13
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99+ % of all my food is already dead.

Last healthy food I remember eating were meal worms. Perhaps unintentionally some small bugs while biking...
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:39 PM   #14
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I didn't make it very far into the documentary. Smells like propaganda. I'm not anti-vegan and I'm all for cutting way back on meat. But this documentary triggered my bullshit detector.

edit: I'm trying to recall exactly what it was that got me to shut it off (it was a while ago.) I think they got into a stretch of demonizing certain foods while saying sugar isn't that bad, which it true if you are very specific about what health aspect you are talking about, but they were talking about just being overweight. So I say bullshit. Sugar makes you fat just as well as anything else. If you're going to try to tell me that sugar doesn't make you fat, I don't need to watch the rest of your nutrition documentary.
I don't ever remember them saying sugar was good for you but maybe I missed it. The truth hurts when we find out just about every industry our government is suppose to protect us from jist ends up in bed with them off profits over people sadly. It was a good documentary.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:53 PM   #15
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The truth hurts when we find out just about every industry our government is suppose to protect us from
Well, at least our federal government has done a pretty good job protecting us from the casino industry.

Our government, primarily, is supposed to protect us from itself.

Little concept known as Liberty.

Last I checked, our government never force fed any citizen that citizen didn't want to eat.
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As long as we're on the subject, what about cow farts?

I hear environmentalists claiming that cow farts are contributing to global warming. WTF?

Cows have been on earth forever-how's it just now that their farts are dooming the world?

Billions of years before cows, gigantical creatures known as the dinosaurs roamed the earth and those giant creatures must have ripped farts that would have made cow farts seem like Daisy spray.

Not only did dinosaur farts not actually lead to global warming but in fact all the dinosaurs died in a worldwide Ice Age.

Additionally, the contemporary cow is a vegan, not unlike the human vegan of today.

So how is it that human vegans aren't contaminating the earthly greenhouse with their own vegan farting any less than cows are?
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Old 08-14-2017, 05:33 PM   #17
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As long as we're on the subject, what about cow farts?

I hear environmentalists claiming that cow farts are contributing to global warming. WTF?

Cows have been on earth forever-how's it just now that their farts are dooming the world?

Billions of years before cows, gigantical creatures known as the dinosaurs roamed the earth and those giant creatures must have ripped farts that would have made cow farts seem like Daisy spray.

Not only did dinosaur farts not actually lead to global warming but in fact all the dinosaurs died in a worldwide Ice Age.

Additionally, the contemporary cow is a vegan, not unlike the human vegan of today.

So how is it that human vegans aren't contaminating the earthly greenhouse with their own vegan farting any less than cows are?

Your joking with this comment right ? Meat industry is worse then cars now.

https://www.ecowatch.com/which-is-wo...919932136.html
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:48 PM   #18
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Well, at least our federal government has done a pretty good job protecting us from the casino industry.

Our government, primarily, is supposed to protect us from itself.

Little concept known as Liberty.

Last I checked, our government never force fed any citizen that citizen didn't want to eat.
Telling me there is not a single case of force feeding prisoners on hunger strikes? I find that highly unlikely.



https://www.rt.com/usa/348794-wiscon...unger-strikes/
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:20 AM   #19
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Your joking with this comment right ? Meat industry is worse then cars now.

https://www.ecowatch.com/which-is-wo...919932136.html
Let us deconstruct the article.

Eat less cattle = decrease methane production by cows.


However, if he stop eating meat it will not instantly decrease the cow population.

So I have a few propositions for you;
1. Kill all cows and don't bother eating them (which seems a waste to me)
2. Stop eating cows and starve them to death. (cause ranchers gonna keep feeding cows which aren't going to yield a profit )
3. Drastically increase meat consumption, thereby, creating a high enough rate deaths which will greatly greatly outnumber the birth of new cattle. (reference dodo as an example)


I love how the article mentions the use of trucks as a reason why we should avoid eating meat. Funny, I can't think of a single produce which does not arrive via truck to my local grocery store. I also find the notion that cattle are transported to a slaughterhouse in air conditioned trailers highly suspect and laughable. I mean after the cows are killed of course.


Going on a hunch, the author is a yankee. Given most computers (including phones/tablets etc computers) are made in China, doubt the author boycotts all goods made in China. Which cross a massive ocean using an enormous internal combustion engines. Which are than transported via trucks across the massive country. Come to think of it, most goods in the US come from China. (Unless this changed in past 12 months)


Here is the 2015 summary of US green house gas emissions from EPA. Funny agriculture is listed at 9%. Kinda easy to manipulate numbers.
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sou...-gas-emissions

I would personally classify that article as propaganda.
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:44 PM   #20
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I don't ever remember them saying sugar was good for you but maybe I missed it. The truth hurts when we find out just about every industry our government is suppose to protect us from jist ends up in bed with them off profits over people sadly. It was a good documentary.
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