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Old 12-06-2017, 06:59 PM   #101
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you go to more than one christmas party? i only go to the mandatory one for my office. It's always awful, and I try to leave asap.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:19 AM   #102
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I like how a bill that allows all Americans to keep more of their own money is called a wealth transfer. you guys can be so creative in your spin.
Income taxes are redistributed to each state unequally, and historically more to red tax-recipient states. and less to purple and blue donor states, this despite the funds being backed by nothing but red debt vapor.

Unlike many, if not most conservatives, it never bothered me that a portion of my state and federal taxes paid over the past 40+ years was for government programs supporting the poor, disabled, and elderly in Murka, not to mention my FICA contributions paying for those on SS, SSD, Medicare, and Medicaid. I did however, resent the size of the portion spent on the MIC and defense, and believe that the annual budget has been/is too much by at least twice what it should have been and is. I would much rather the excess had been/is being spent on the arts, sciences, education, and infrastructure.


The permanent corporate tax-cuts won't result in creating jobs and/or raising wages and salaries of those who they employ, other than upper management. Only consumer/business demand does so. More likely it will be increasingly spent on AI, robotics, and automation. which are job/career killers, not creators.

Over the past 35 years, many states have resorted to "stealing" each others businesses by offering incentives and abatements, such as here in MI, when Hollywood filmmakers took advantage of incentives to make movies here for several years, until they ended recently. But as vividly demonstrated in Brownback's Kansas, deep state tax-cuts in undesireable rural locations can epic fail.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:49 PM   #103
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you go to more than one christmas party? i only go to the mandatory one for my office. It's always awful, and I try to leave asap.
you can't leave if you don't go.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:21 PM   #104
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you can't leave if you don't go.
As my wife has moved up her professional ladder it becomes more and more expected of not only her to make an appearance but myself as well. Being arm candy is not as fun as it sounds.
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And now Apple announces multi-billion dollar repatriation, a large tax payment on foreign profits and investment in the US which will result in 20,000 new jobs - because in large part of the REPUBLICAN tax reform bill. What do we hear from the leftists on this board? Crickets.

Well, not crickets, just crickets on this matter. I guess they're too busy bloviating over the made up non-issue du jour to admit they were wrong.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:35 AM   #107
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And now Apple announces multi-billion dollar repatriation, a large tax payment on foreign profits and investment in the US which will result in 20,000 new jobs - because in large part of the REPUBLICAN tax reform bill. What do we hear from the leftists on this board? Crickets.

Well, not crickets, just crickets on this matter. I guess they're too busy bloviating over the made up non-issue du jour to admit they were wrong.


LMAO !!! I guess the economy was going pretty good under Obama if they hid that much money!!
it just proves these companies were making massive amounts of money under Obama which you conveniently want to forget, and of course some of the ultra-wealthy companies are going to do the right thing with this massive tax break.
So how are we going to pay for roads and schools, and healthcare. Yup zap it from the poor and middle-class LOL.. We know !!! The GOP game plan !!!! Gotta cut those entitlements !!!!

So where are the massive rises for everyone and the great healthcare from this? Is this going to trickle down I cant waiT!!!

and meanwhile Walmart after announcing precious time off for maternity leave for women and men for ONLY full-time employees and finally well earned bonuses announces it will close 63 Sam club stores effecting over 9500 workers Sorry no warning store is closing.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news...ing/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/oth...refvid=AAu2fRc
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:46 AM   #108
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LMAO !!! I guess the economy was going pretty good under Obama if they hid that much money!!
it just proves these companies were making massive amounts of money under Obama which you conveniently want to forget, and of course some of the ultra-wealthy companies are going to do the right thing with this massive tax break.
So how are we going to pay for roads and schools, and healthcare. Yup zap it from the poor and middle-class LOL.. We know !!! The GOP game plan !!!! Gotta cut those entitlements !!!!

So where are the massive rises for everyone and the great healthcare from this? Is this going to trickle down I cant waiT!!!

and meanwhile Walmart after announcing precious time off for maternity leave for women and men for ONLY full-time employees and finally well earned bonuses announces it will close 63 Sam club stores effecting over 9500 workers Sorry no warning store is closing.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news...ing/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/oth...refvid=AAu2fRc
I forgot Obama invented the iPhone. Sorry about that. Don't forget the wage hikes at Walmart and news flash, most benefits all virtually all companies only accrue to full time employees but thanks for drawing attention to another nonissue.

And in case you're not paying attention or are particularly dim, the last two posts are evidence of what you call "trickle down" economics. You can deny facts all you want, that doesn't make you not wrong - again.
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I forgot Obama invented the iPhone. Sorry about that. Don't forget the wage hikes at Walmart and news flash, most benefits all virtually all companies only accrue to full time employees but thanks for drawing attention to another

And in case you're not paying attention or are particularly dim, the last two posts are evidence of what you call "trickle down" economics. You can deny facts all you want, that doesn't make you not wrong - again.

So my 9500 layoffs are wrong ?
What those 10 to 50 cent rises !!!!lol. Sorry I mentioned everything but those.
Holy molly 2 more loafs of bread and more literature on how I can get food stamps . You know the Walmart playbook for the poor hourly workers..

Glad you are admitting what a great job Obama did for America. Lol ..Only dim one is you ..Yup Hack History 101 !!!! ALL of these companies made their zillions before Obama was Office ..
Lmao and notice the sarcasm if you are not to dumb to do so.. Imagine how good America would be if Obama wasn't stopped at every turn by the Gop.. holy crap what a thought .. Maybe healthcare for everyone !!! Clean water and air !!! IMAGINE THAT !!! Naw we don't want the slaves healthy !!!
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:37 AM   #110
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So my 9500 layoffs are wrong ?
What those 10 to 50 cent rises !!!!lol. Sorry I mentioned everything but those.
Holy molly 2 more loafs of bread and more literature on how I can get food stamps . You know the Walmart playbook for the poor hourly workers..

Glad you are admitting what a great job Obama did for America. Lol ..Only dim one is you ..Yup Hack History 101 !!!! ALL of these companies made their zillions before Obama was Office ..
Lmao and notice the sarcasm if you are not to dumb to do so.. Imagine how good America would be if Obama wasn't stopped at every turn by the Gop.. holy crap what a thought .. Maybe healthcare for everyone !!! Clean water and air !!! IMAGINE THAT !!! Naw we don't want the slaves healthy !!!
ok, but who said these companies didn't make money until Trump came along. isn't the point about the repatriated $ that it had been parked overseas for years if not decades because of a moronic tax code? it is, so this is just another one of your ill-informed rants.

and so Walmart is laying off 9500 people at Sam's club over how many years? apple is adding 20,000 jobs here in the US - that's a net gain of over 10,000. and 10,000 HIGH paying jobs. that along with the billions of dollars in domestic investment, increased wages and bonuses other companies have announced will make that net gain much larger across the entire income spectrum.

the idea that Obama's agenda would have made this country so much better is laughable - let me ask you this, when your household is experiencing tough financial times, do you increase spending in an attempt to make yourself less poor? no, of course you don't. Your answer is to vote for Democrats to tax and spend our way to prosperity. That is patently ridiculous. Even you are probably smart enough to actually cut spending at some point after your debt exceeds your income.

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