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Worst Anti-Science BS of 2017

Spartanmack said:
doesn't matter how many times you say you don't like Trump, if you disagree with him, you're a Trump sniffer - whatever that is.
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Yeah but every time I post people seem to never see where I blame Democrats or call them out. Yeah I think they are the lesser of 2 bad parties but anyone who voted for Trump over Clinton and think she would have been worse is just a flat out wrong.
GIve us a third party who gives a shit about Americans, and not this far right or far left bullshit. Why is it every election cycle one party brings up Guns, gays, and religion. Why does one party have mechanisms in place to keep people from voting?

Oh I forgot to bash the rich Democrats in minorty power who are evil because they always blame the ultra rich or wants healtcare for everyone...lol. give me a break. Yeah I know which party is the lesser of two bad parties .
 
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biggunsbob said:
Yeah but every time I post people seem to never see where I blame Democrats or call them out. Yeah I think they are the lesser of 2 bad parties but anyone who voted for Trump over Clinton and think she would have been worse is just a flat out wrong.
GIve us a third party who gives a shit about Americans.
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no, we see that. what your missing is when we call you out for saying the GOP is way more corrupt then you respond by calling those posts stupid because you already acknowledged the short comings of the Dems. You're missing the point.

As bad as Trump is, Clinton would have been worse. She's the most corrupt, self-serving politician of our lifetime and perhaps all time. She had 3 Watergate level scandals since 2010 and you and the left give her a free pass on all of them just so you can say the GOP is way worse. it's boring, old and tired.
 
biggunsbob said:
Yeah but every time I post people seem to never see where I blame Democrats or call them out. Yeah I think they are the lesser of 2 bad parties but anyone who voted for Trump over Clinton and think she would have been worse is just a flat out wrong.
GIve us a third party who gives a shit about Americans.
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Corruption in the DNC is the reason Hillary went up against Trump and not Bernie Sanders. This is just a W.A.G. on my part, but if it weren't for the DNC's corruption, Sanders would be the President right now. Essentially, you have your own party to thank for Trump being in office. :tup:

As far as your last line...nothing would make me happier than to have a viable 3rd party.
 
tomdalton22 said:
Corruption in the DNC is the reason Hillary went up against Trump and not Bernie Sanders. This is just a W.A.G. on my part, but if it weren't for the DNC's corruption, Sanders would be the President right now. Essentially, you have your own party to thank for Trump being in office. :tup:

As far as your last line...nothing would make me happier than to have a viable 3rd party.
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Sanders himself is to blame for his skirting the South/Southwest b/c of his distinct Brooklyn accent, which he believed would be not well received. The sheer irony and hypocrisy of proud Confederate descendants bringing the battle flag to the rallies for a New York Yankee carpetbagger candidate apparently was lost on him. He avoided campaigning in urban areas, thereby losing the minority vote. He barely won in the MI primary, it was the outstate voters who carried and gave him only a share of the total.


I am certain that the Republicans in Congress would not cast a single vote for campaign finance reform, and it was SCOTUS conservative who ruled in favor of Citizens United, so AFAIAC, there is only ONE major party who I will always oppose.
 
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tomdalton22 said:
Corruption in the DNC is the reason Hillary went up against Trump and not Bernie Sanders. This is just a W.A.G. on my part, but if it weren't for the DNC's corruption, Sanders would be the President right now. Essentially, you have your own party to thank for Trump being in office. :tup:

As far as your last line...nothing would make me happier than to have a viable 3rd party.
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That is just only partly true on why Trump wad elected and even you know that.
 
Spartanmack said:
As bad as Trump is, Clinton would have been worse. She's the most corrupt, self-serving politician of our lifetime and perhaps all time. She had 3 Watergate level scandals since 2010 and you and the left give her a free pass on all of them just so you can say the GOP is way worse. it's boring, old and tired.
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Republicans have tried for decades to bring HRC down, but have epic failed even after her being grilled by committee for a dozen hours. So either their cases were weak, or they were freaking incompetent.

You don't bring a pea-shooter to a gunfight, and I considered her to be the ideal POTUS vs the GOP-majority Congress. They might have hated the black guy, but they feared the female.
 
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turok said:
Republicans have tried for decades to bring HRC down, but have epic failed even after her being grilled by committee for a dozen hours. So either their cases were weak, or they were freaking incompetent.

You don't bring a pea-shooter to a gunfight, and I considered her to be the ideal POTUS vs the GOP-majority Congess. They might have hated the black guy, but they feared the female.
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this might be why you think she's not corrupt despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. As for your identity politics nonsense, that just shows how out of touch you are - it's just pure ignorance.
 
Gulo Blue said:
The first hit when I googled was all about an implication rather than anything he said in the second movie.
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I haven't seen the second movie and I haven't read anything about it other than it was a major flop so I can't comment on the content. The first one, however is filled with nonsense, lies, manipulated data and a bunch of predictions that didn't come close to happening and don't appear to be happening now, either.
 
Spartanmack said:
this might be why you think she's not corrupt despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. As for your identity politics nonsense, that just shows how out of touch you are - it's just pure ignorance.
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Coming from you?

You've got no more cred than anyone else here.

"Mountains of evidence" yet not a single conviction.
 
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turok said:
Coming from you?

You've got no more cred than anyone else here.

"Mountains of evidence" yet not a single conviction.
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yep, that's what being the most corrupt politician gets you - that, and apparently more than a few sycophants.

We're famous for not prosecuting corruption - especially by Dems.
 
tomdalton22 said:
maybe liberals aren't open minded after all
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And I suppose that you are, huh?

There are few, if any squeaky clean pols, its the nature of the beast, and I expect less from those than I would ever get from them, b/c they won't be elected w/o @ least some meddlesome corporate funding.

There is a pseudo-3rd party comprised of Libertarians, but the difference btw them and the GOP is insignificant. The Green Party seems to believe that there are no other federal/state/local offices to rally around, save the Executive.

I don't label myself a being far left or socialist, b/c after a half century of distortion from much of the nation being yanked further and further to the right, my POV would be far closer to what the GOP represented back in the 50s.

I voted for Milliken as governor in the 70s, have you ever voted for a Democratic candidate?

If so, whom?
 
turok said:
And I suppose that you are, huh?

There are few, if any squeaky clean pols, its the nature of the beast, and I expect less from those than I would ever get from them, b/c they won't be elected w/o @ least some meddlesome corporate funding.

There is a pseudo-3rd party comprised of Libertarians, but the difference btw them and the GOP is insignificant. The Green Party seems to believe that there are no other federal/state/local offices to rally around, save the Executive.

I don't label myself a being far left or socialist, b/c after a half century of distortion from much of the nation being yanked further and further to the right, my POV would be far closer to what the GOP represented back in the 50s.

I voted for Milliken as governor in the 70s, have you ever voted for a Democratic candidate?

If so, whom?
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I have never voted for a democratic presidential candidate. I have voted for democrats at the local, state and congressional levels.
 
tomdalton22 said:
I have never voted for a democratic presidential candidate. I have voted for democrats at the local, state and congressional levels.
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I voted for two different Democrats for president in 2008.

I voted for Obama in the California primary, and then I voted for McCain in the general election.
 
What other political party in the world denies climate change? Take a look around the world because it is the Republican party . It's like a relegion to republican politicians how they protect then fossil fuel industry .


Hey you remember the quote to rising heat

"Get Shade"

Republican Joe Barton

Gotta admit it's pretty funny. But sadly the Gop is a lost party with no soul.
 
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Spartanmack said:
I haven't seen the second movie and I haven't read anything about it other than it was a major flop so I can't comment on the content. The first one, however is filled with nonsense, lies, manipulated data and a bunch of predictions that didn't come close to happening and don't appear to be happening now, either.
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Let me know if you think of an example. I'm honestly not sure from what I've read if it's factually wrong or just manipulative. Either way, I blame Al Gore to some degree for politicizing something that shouldn't be.
 
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