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Old 02-03-2014, 06:33 PM   #1
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How many have you read?

http://thefederalist.com/2014/01/16/...about-reading/



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Old 02-03-2014, 08:48 PM   #2
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1984 and War and Peace (not in the top ten, but mentioned earlier in the article).

I might have read either Les Miserables and/or A Tale of Two Cities back in jr high, but if I did I remember very little of them.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:54 PM   #3
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Aside from the incoherent right-wing babbling by the author of the article, I have read: 1984, Moby Dick, Atlas Shrugged, A Tale of Two Cities, and The Art of War. Though the Art of War is different depending on who does the translations/interpretations.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:21 PM   #4
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1984, and Moby dick... tried some of the others I own some of them... can't say I have read them through though...
I mean none of these are as good as 'Blood Meridian' :)
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:19 PM   #5
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Aside from the incoherent right-wing babbling by the author of the article...
He did ramble a lot. He could've just said this:

People often claim to have read books that they actually have not, and I like to think mainly liberals do this. Liberals like Neil deGrasse Tyson, who was asked to make a book list and only gave short summaries of the books he recommended, leading me to conclude that he did not read them. Confusingly, by attacking liberals who do not read, you may think I am advocating reading, but I am not. I consider reading long books to be abnormal. That being said, there are some books that I think "people" - by which I mean Conservatives like me - would be embarrassed to admit they have not read, and here are the top ten, even though #8 contains two books, and a reference to an entire category of literature.
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I read 2, 3, & 7.

This is simply not true:
9. On the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin: Many pro-evolutionists online display no understanding that the pro-evolution scientific community rejects the bulk of Darwin’s initial findings about evolution.
It's cute when Conservatives try to be intellectual, but I thought reading was for wimps... not real men like Dick Cheney and George W. Bush.
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:52 PM   #6
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3,7,8a, and 10.

Art of War is quick and really all I remember is that battle flows like water from the high to the low places.

1984 led to Anthem led to Atlas Shrugged, more or less. I read Fahrenheit 451 somewhere in there too. I still don't get how people read these books and take a side rather than look to reach the right balance between competing ideas.

That line about #9 is just dumb. I'm not sure it makes sense to read the Origin of Species unless you are an actual biologist familiar with a great deal of the literature or if there's a highly annotated version out there that fills you in on what parts played what role in the development of the field. Learning a subject by going through it's history and reading edited selections with extensive commentary is a great way, maybe the best way to learn a subject. But you miss a lot if you just read original texts without commentary or context. Same probably goes for #5.

#1. Got that right. I downloaded the free ebook, but never read it.

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Old 02-04-2014, 03:54 PM   #7
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Can we add Three and Out to the board version of this list?
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What competing ideas were there in 1984? And how would you balance them?
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:06 PM   #9
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What competing ideas were there in 1984? And how would you balance them?
It's not that one book contains competing ideas, it's the set of the fictional dystopian futures each highlighting what's wrong if you go too far in any one direction. Although, I'm not sure what the go-to books are to set against Atlas Shrugged and 1984...the other side is better represented in movies. Soylent Green, Alien, Robocop...maybe Hunger Games counts. Haven't read it.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:18 PM   #10
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... Although, I'm not sure what the go-to books are to set against Atlas Shrugged and 1984...
ones that attempt to justify curtailing civil rights and oppression?

usually they're magazines, leaflets, posters, news reports, etc. not books:



But some are books...





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