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Old 10-10-2017, 09:36 AM   #1
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California Fires

Man these are bad. I remember in the early 1970's when my dad who was moving up the ladder in the dnr was still a fire supervisor before he started working for GSA in the dnr a whole michigan crew was called out to help fight fires in california. My dad said fight fires in california was alot different the fighting them in Michigan.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41559875

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ps-photos.html
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And it's going to get worse

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I kinda lose sympathy for those who build/buy where prone to natural disasters and/or are vulnerable to climate change. Apparently the Republicans' new tax bill may contain language to the effect of permitting write-offs for property losses, due to hurricanes, floods, and twisters, but not quakes, mudslides, and wildfires...sorry Cali...
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I kinda lose sympathy for those who build/buy where prone to natural disasters and/or are vulnerable to climate change. Apparently the Republicans' new tax bill may contain lannguage to the effect of permitting write-offs for property losses, due to hurricanes, floods, and twisters, but not quakes and wildfires...sorry Cali...
The Trump Gop tax plan is really going after blue states sadly.
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There is growing suspicion that these fires may not all be ..."natural" disasters, either.
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the pictures of massive fires burning alongside rush hour traffic are really surreal.

yeah, Bob, I think it's only going to get worse. and with increasing drought, we'll see them in other areas.

it's nice though that there's been some coverage of the practice of wealthy houses are getting protected while less-wealthy ones burn. helpful glimpse into the future of our country.

private cops standing by and watching you get robbed if you didn't pay for "premium" police protection...

fire department letting your house burn because your neighbor paid higher insurance premiums...

getting sick and dying because you can't afford treatment. or getting sick and committing suicide to avoid bankrupting your family

getting to skip painful and humiliating "security" at the airport if you can afford "pre-check"

etc etc
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the problem is these fires need to happen. Unfortunately, we have developed land in or near these forests.
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The irony is these fires are WORSE because last winter wasn't as dry and the hillside vegetation (read, "fuel") grew back and is now burning again. I was in LA last week and while that one video of the pre-dawn commute went viral, I can say it was a pretty big deal and impacted a LOT of folks - whether on voluntary evacuation, becoming mandatory or the changing winds causing the fire to leap and cause immediate evacuations.

But when you're on the 20th floor of an office building on Wilshire Blvd, adjacent to the UCLA campus and with views of Bel Air and you see flames leaping into the air, producing thick black smoke ..you understand it isn't some rural brush fire or "natural disaster."

And yes, it (sadly) definitely makes a difference when it's multi-million dollar mansions at stake in Bel Air, Westwood, Pacific Palisades and other areas.
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getting to skip painful and humiliating "security" at the airport if you can afford "pre-check" etc etc
I recall reading that an airport in SoCal was considering building or designating a terminal to be used exclusively for celebs and the wealthy, so they wouldn't have to rub shoulders with the hoi-polloi....as well as a state prison for the well-heeled convicts to "spend" their time in more plush accomodations.
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I recall reading that an airport in SoCal was considering building or designating a terminal to be used exclusively for celebs and the wealthy, so they wouldn't have to rub shoulders with the hoi-polloi....as well as a state prison for the well-heeled convicts to "spend" their time in more plush accomodations.
here it is

http://beta.latimes.com/local/califo...503-story.html
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