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Old 10-26-2017, 10:49 AM   #1
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Private Prison Business is booming

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Old 10-26-2017, 11:04 AM   #2
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Old 10-26-2017, 11:11 AM   #3
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We should try to keep profits out of the business of incarceration with the same fervor we try to inject free markets into most other things. Too much drive to increase the number of "customers" to remain ethical.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:17 PM   #4
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The well-heeled convict may soon alternatively have the choice to pay for cushier and comfortable prison accomodations while serving out his or her sentence, which would provide another enhanced revenue stream for private prison entities.

City/county judgeships are an elected position, which compels PAs, DAs, and incumbents to seek and mete out stiffer and longer sentences as evidence of being 'tough on crime" while campaigning, as do county sheriffs in charge of jails. So while private prisons have a monetary incentive to keep cells full, so does judicial office-holders.


So "justice" is not blind here in Murka, but is moreso a social/fiscal rater, with the poorer of those charged with a crime, being much more likely to be convicted and sentenced. Recidivism is also a factor, b/c of the markedly increased inability of ex-convicts being able to find FT, long-term employment, much less any which are life-supporting and gainful. Even if an inmate spends his or her time taking classes while incarcerated, having a criminal record along with a gap in employment history, makes it far more likely that their job applications/resumes will be round-filed or deleted.

Unlike county circuit court, district court fines and fees must be paid in full on the same day as sentencing, else get put in the slammer for certain.Obviously those who are poor/unemployed are going to jail, where here in MI, the state law is "pay to stay" and just a 90 day incarceration adds up to almost $6000.00.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:25 PM   #5
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The well-heeled convict may soon alternatively have the choice to pay for cushier and comfortable prison accomodations while serving out his or her sentence, which would provide another enhanced revenue stream for private prison entities.

City/county judgeships are an elected position, which compels PAs, DAs, and incumbents to seek and mete out stiffer and longer sentences as evidence of being 'tough on crime" while campaigning, as do county sheriffs in charge of jails. So while private prisons have a monetary incentive to keep cells full, so does judicial office-holders.


So "justice" is not blind here in Murka, but is moreso a social/fiscal rater, with the poorer of those charged with a crime, being much more likely to be convicted and sentenced. Recidivism is also a factor, b/c of the markedly increased inability of ex-convicts being able to find FT, long-term employment, much less any which are life-supporting and gainful. Even if an inmate spends his or her time taking classes while incarcerated, having a criminal record along with a gap in employment history, makes it far more likely that their job applications/resumes will be round-filed or deleted.

Unlike county circuit court, district court fines and fees must be paid in full on the same day as sentencing, else get put in the slammer for certain.Obviously those who are poor/unemployed are going to jail, where here in MI, the state law is "pay to stay" and just a 90 day incarceration adds up to almost $6000.00.
lesson here...don't commit crimes
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:43 PM   #6
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lesson here...don't commit crimes
I was thinking along the same lines.

Additionally I see lots of people who appear to be poor out in public every day.

So apparently not everyone who is poor goes to prison.

Maybe just the ones who are criminals.
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Our incarceration rates are high compared to other places of similar wealth. I don't believe Americans are inherently more deserving of it.
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lesson here...don't commit crimes
the lesson is actually "don't be poor."

everyone commits crimes. only the poor go to jail or prison for them.
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Our incarceration rates are high compared to other places of similar wealth. I don't believe Americans are inherently more deserving of it.
realistically, we should only be jailing violent criminals, and really only violent criminals who are not also mentally ill.

and there would not be as many people involved in criminal behavior if not for economy with benefits not spread as equally, and areas without (legal) employment opportunities of any kind.

but instead of going that route, America went with a more brutal alternative.

land of the free, right?
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People that want to have more Americans jailed than Europeans are commies, right?
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