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Old 08-02-2017, 08:45 AM   #1
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the OTHER kind of affirmative action

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...New Jersey real estate developer Charles Kushner had pledged $2.5 million to Harvard University in 1998, not long before his son Jared was admitted to the prestigious Ivy League school. ...

I ... quoted administrators at Jared’s high school, who described him as a less than stellar student and expressed dismay at Harvard’s decision.

“There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,” a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told me. “His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.”
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:51 AM   #2
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While I can easily believe it's 100% true, I have a hard time with articles that use anonymous, former, sources and no evidence to support the claim about his GPA, SAT's, etc.

Especially ones that have an agenda, in this case the guy linking multiple times to his book on the subject, including direct links to the amazon site.

The media is becoming lazy.
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Old 08-02-2017, 10:16 AM   #3
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While I can easily believe it's 100% true, I have a hard time with articles that use anonymous, former, sources and no evidence to support the claim about his GPA, SAT's, etc.

Especially ones that have an agenda, in this case the guy linking multiple times to his book on the subject, including direct links to the amazon site.

The media is becoming lazy.
I agree with you about anonymous sources.

at least in this case though, Kushner wasn't the focus of the initial article; it was about kids who's parents bought their way ino Harvard generally. This was a follow up written after Kushner became notorious for his role in the Trump campaign.

also, about him not being too bright... if you look at his record in business and government so far... that part checks out.
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situation: a policy intended to oppose systemic racism that affects like 1% of all college applicants, and results in some borderline black applicants getting in over borderline white applicants?

Rush Limbaugh: This is An OUTRAGE. this is the "real racism" in society. this handful of white kids who don't get into their first college choice because of AA are victims. fund lawsuits! take this all the way to the Supreme Court!

situation: some equal (or greater?) number of rich kids buying their way into prestigious colleges over more qualified applicants?

Rush: Eh... what exactly is the problem here?

Talk about "entitlement issues"...
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I agree with you about anonymous sources.

at least in this case though, Kushner wasn't the focus of the initial article; it was about kids who's parents bought their way ino Harvard generally. This was a follow up written after Kushner became notorious for his role in the Trump campaign.

also, about him not being too bright... if you look at his record in business and government so far... that part checks out.


Well like I said, I have no problem believing what was suggested in the article. I just felt it was kind of lazy journalism, and not really making any stunning conclusions. The rich and socially powerful have always gotten special treatment, whether it's getting in to a college they are not qualified for, or getting multiple slaps on the wrist and probation for breaking laws that you or I would do real jail time for.
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The rich and socially powerful have always gotten special treatment, whether it's getting in to a college they are not qualified for, or getting multiple slaps on the wrist and probation for breaking laws that you or I would do real jail time for.
In other breaking news, water is still wet.

EDIT: Although, come to think of it, it all couldn't keep the guy out of jail for a while.
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Well like I said, I have no problem believing what was suggested in the article. I just felt it was kind of lazy journalism, and not really making any stunning conclusions. The rich and socially powerful have always gotten special treatment, whether it's getting in to a college they are not qualified for, or getting multiple slaps on the wrist and probation for breaking laws that you or I would do real jail time for.
oh. i guess we should learn to be okay with it then. pardon me for attempting to draw attention to this inconsistency.

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oh. i guess we should learn to be okay with it then. pardon me for attempting to draw attention to this inconsistency.

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oh. i guess we should learn to be okay with it then. pardon me for attempting to draw attention to this inconsistency.

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~1/4 of the US are sociopaths who are okay with those who have affluenza, and look down upon those who are/were born into or become impoverished, disabled, minority, and/or become the unproductive elderly who survive upon SS/Medicare.

~1/4 of the nation are the polar opposite...aka the Antifa SJW.

~1/2 of the country follow Kim Kardashian's Twitter, are super sports fans, Ya'll Qaeda, are chronics, and/or alcoholics and/or are addicted to meth/coke/opioids/heroin, google for pics of Beyonce's newborn twins, watch Murka's Got Talent, are game talk-show audiences, have no idea who are their reps in local/state/federal government, or have/want to stand in front of Rockefeller Center in NYC, hoping that the NBC camera pans on them and their hand-drawn sign for a millisecond, so that they can tweet to their followers that they got on the Today Show's morning teevee....aka the apolitical, substance-dependent, superficial, and apathetic.
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as far as the article being lazy journalism... how?

sure I knew that families that gave giant wads of cash to universities got special treatment. the author actually got a list of recent big time donors to Harvard, matched their names to kids recently admitted, and tracked down their records to see if they would've gotten in o the merits. it wasn't just an article though... he wrote a whole book on the topic about these practices generally, not just Harvard about a decade ago. that's lazy? this article is a refresh of that topic, newsworthy now that one of its subjects works in the WhiteHouse and given his father-in-law's hands-off attitude and love of nepotism, enjoys way more power than he should

the author also showed how much it cost Kushner's parents to buy their son's way into the school: $2.5 million, in annual installments of $250k. Holy shit. not sure whether the size of that gift is reassuring or demorilizing.
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