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Old 01-25-2018, 01:46 AM   #21
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This is probably the thread with the most dumb posts in the history of DSF politics board, beginning with the unimaginable dumbness of the OP:

"Both of these cannot be true - either the sky is blue, or grass is green - it cannot possibly be both."
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:24 AM   #22
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As I've gotten older I've come to notice that the only thing most people REALLY care about is money/the economy. Abortion, civil rights, gun control...all of these just seem like secondary bitching points. Put a little extra money in everyone's pockets and they'll turn a blind eye to just about everything.
Agree. And Grandkids. Money and Grandkids.
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:47 AM   #23
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As I've gotten older I've come to notice that the only thing most people REALLY care about is money/the economy. Abortion, civil rights, gun control...all of these just seem like secondary bitching points. Put a little extra money in everyone's pockets and they'll turn a blind eye to just about everything.
I personally have nothing whatsoever to gain monetarily by supporting "socialist" policies. I have the same FEHB and pension as Congresscritters, plus railroad retirement, a modest inheritance, and no kids. So what you posted isn't always true. Most of us Leftists don't wear blinders made out of Benjamins.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:12 AM   #24
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Its just a shame CEO's, and owners do not take a lot less pay for their workers. Some do but most just want to look good..
how would that really help the workers? Let's pick on Walmart since everyone hates them. The CEO makes $35M per year. That sounds like a lot! So let's say he lowers his salary to something that you feel is reasonable. The average hourly worker makes $10 for part-time and $13 for full time. The CEO would be considered full time so let's give him $13 per hour. Pay him $27K per year and give the rest to the employees. Wal Mart has 2.3M employees. Each employee would get $15.20. I guess they could take their wife to McDonald's for lunch?

Of course, a lot of big corps are giving employees a nice bonus this year, apparently due to the corporate tax break they received. I heard Disney gave everybody $1000 along with countless other companies that did the same.

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Old 01-25-2018, 09:17 AM   #25
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I personally have nothing whatsoever to gain monetarily by supporting "socialist" policies. I have the same FEHB and pension as Congresscritters, plus railroad retirement, a modest inheritance, and no kids. So what you posted isn't always true. Most of us Leftists don't wear blinders made out of Benjamins.
sounds like you are already set with some "socialist" benefits...so it won't hurt you to tax the shit out of me to help support people that don't want to take care of themselves or their families.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:17 AM   #26
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Of course, a lot of big corps are giving employees a nice bonus this year, apparently due to the corporate tax break they received. I heard Disney gave everybody $1000 along with countless other companies that did the same.

Ohh whoopie....a one-time tax deductible $1K bonus, when their tax-cuts are permanent
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Ohh whoopie....a one-time tax deductible $1K bonus, when their tax-cuts are permanent
they are permanent? So the tax bill can never be changed / or a new one put in place by a different administration. That's news to me!

And yes...bonuses are taxed. One of the companies paid $200M in bonuses. That's another $24.8M put into the social security fund ($12.4M paid by the company). That should make you happy ;)
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:37 AM   #28
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sounds like you are already set with some "socialist" benefits...so it won't hurt you to tax the shit out of me to help support people that don't want to take care of themselves or their families.
So poor conservatives living in flyover country are turning down govmint assistance, and are not "robbing" you? Maybe being taxed for corporate welfare, such as being paid for not growing crops, or for state of the art entertainment venues, or the MIC doesn't matter to you....b/c allegedly more jobs in the puny hundreds.

I suggest that you contact your reps and ask them if they are benefiting from socialism.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:43 AM   #29
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they are permanent? So the tax bill can never be changed / or a new one put in place by a different administration. That's news to me!

And yes...bonuses are taxed. One of the companies paid $200M in bonuses. That's another $24.8M put into the social security fund ($12.4M paid by the company). That should make you happy ;)
Uhh....administrations cannot legislate for tax bill reversals, that is Congress responsibility. Didn't post that those bonuses weren't taxed, but deductible, read my posts more closely next time.

The small "temporary" tax-cuts for labor are far more likely to be rolled back by 2021, if the GOP maintains control or increases their majority in all 3 branches of government over the next two election cycles, which is exactly why they added that self-destructing tax-cut cookie in the first place. That should make you very happy!!
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:05 AM   #30
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Don't think it's going to happen but if Trump goes down, you're correct, it'll be a bloodbath in the markets. It'll be Paul Krugman's market call in reverse. Can't believe that guy still has a job/readers.

As a FINRA-licensed S24/7/63 and practicing investment advisor, I can say with certainty that the stock market is not correlated to donald trump, as much as he would assert otherwise. The VIX is at an unprecedented number below 10 and despite real and genuine political discourse. Sure, the stock market would respond to instability in the white house - who wouldn't? - but this booming market and economy is based on the past decade of recovery and leadership under Obama. Trump has most certainly dabbled in money laundering with Russian mobsters. The 'Pee tapes' are most certainly real and he's in deep, fucking shit. He never wanted to be President and would not be, were it not for the interference from Russian hackers and social media BotFarms. He's been a brazen racist and despicable person in private life and now, in serving the public, he's been exposed.

The only person I feel sort of sorry for is Melania ...though she's just a gold digger and deserving of the public embarrassment that is her husband and our "president."

and no ...I'm not some stupid "libtard" or otherwise politically wedged to the Left ...I am in the 1% to be honest and am very much fiscally conservative.

I simply object to the person who sits in DC - the "man" Trump who is in every way an abhorrent and disgusting person. Saddest of all is the sycophant GOP who remain silent through all of this.




too bad the "libtards" don't have 2nd Amendment nuts.
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