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Old 01-28-2018, 02:09 PM   #21
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There is a witch hunt going on for Izzo and Dantonio right now.

Not really, just a bad journalist and some shitty scUM fans.



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Old 01-28-2018, 03:41 PM   #22
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Not really, just a bad journalist and some shitty scUM fans.
I hope we come out with a rebuttal, not to be insensitive to accusers but to show that MD called the title 9 office immediately after hearing about the incident with king coreky and Vance, they were immediately suspended and later dismissed. He actually had a speaker come to talk about assault the week prior. That stuff doesn't get mentioned, along with the prosecutor clearing Payne and appling. That needs to be heard
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:55 PM   #23
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The witness in it backing off her story some.

And get this, ESPN filmed and wrote the story in August. They sat in it until the day Nassar was sentenced to do maximum damage. Yeah, that ESPN writer cares so much about victims she sat in this story for the last 5 months. Fuck her and fuck ESPN.

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Old 01-28-2018, 09:16 PM   #24
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The witness in it backing off her story some.

And get this, ESPN filmed and wrote the story in August. They sat in it until the day Nassar sentenced to do maximum damage. Yeah, that ESPN writer cares so much about victims she sat in this story for the last 5 months. Fuck her and fuck ESPN.
They're desperate for ratings and clicks. I'm not surprised in the least. Fuck ESPN.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:15 PM   #25
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Just saw Izzo answering a couple of the questions on this tossed his way after today's game, and he basically just completely evaded them. I get that he's not going to be in the mood to talk about any of that right after a game and also want to play it safe, especially after misspeaking some in the Nassar case. But it's not a good look, and he needs to address them at some point, and soon.

And yeah. F ESPN.
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Old 01-29-2018, 07:46 AM   #26
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I'm sure PSU fans didn't like the coverage of the Sandusky case either.
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Old 01-29-2018, 09:16 AM   #27
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I'm sure PSU fans didn't like the coverage of the Sandusky case either.
are you saying they're equivalent? Can you show us some evidence of similarly baseless claims that attempted to link the Sandusky case to other programs at PSU? Are you saying this situation where doctor who it turns out is a monster, manipulated young girls and investigators under the pretense of performing legitimate, necessary medical procedures to commit vile crimes for 20 years and then a reporter trying to make a link from that to the football and basketball programs without evidence is the same as reporting on a different monster raping young boys in the shower and his colleagues actively covering it up. And if there were no attempts to link Sandusky's scandal to other programs, were PSU fans complaining about the way it was covered? Most PSU fans I know were not but I'm sure if ESPN tried to link that cover up to the wrestling or basketaball or women's gymnastics program with no actual evidence, they'd probably have something to say about that.

I'm not aware of any complaints by anyone here or any other MSU fans and I know many of them, about the coverage of the actual scandal - not one. Quite the contrary - to a person, they are all appalled by what they are reading/hearing about this disgrace of a human being. They all want to know what happened, how it can be prevented at MSU and anywhere else - hopefully everyone learns from this - and those involved are receive adequate punishment.
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are you saying they're equivalent? Can you show us some evidence of similarly baseless claims that attempted to link the Sandusky case to other programs at PSU? Are you saying this situation where doctor who it turns out is a monster, manipulated young girls and investigators under the pretense of performing legitimate, necessary medical procedures to commit vile crimes for 20 years and then a reporter trying to make a link from that to the football and basketball programs without evidence is the same as reporting on a different monster raping young boys in the shower and his colleagues actively covering it up. And if there were no attempts to link Sandusky's scandal to other programs, were PSU fans complaining about the way it was covered? Most PSU fans I know were not but I'm sure if ESPN tried to link that cover up to the wrestling or basketaball or women's gymnastics program with no actual evidence, they'd probably have something to say about that.

I'm not aware of any complaints by anyone here or any other MSU fans and I know many of them, about the coverage of the actual scandal - not one. Quite the contrary - to a person, they are all appalled by what they are reading/hearing about this disgrace of a human being. They all want to know what happened, how it can be prevented at MSU and anywhere else - hopefully everyone learns from this - and those involved are receive adequate punishment.
Very well said here, ESPN is trying to throw a wide blanket to cover Nassar along with household names in Izzo and Dantonio. This story was filmed in August and then sat on until the sentencing in order to link unrelated stories together.

Also, just an FYI, Nassar did not report up through MSU athletics, he was not a part of the athletic department. He was a doctor and reported through the medical chain of command, same thing with athletic trainers, they don't report through Hollis.
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:21 AM   #29
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Also, just an FYI, Nassar did not report up through MSU athletics, he was not a part of the athletic department. He was a doctor and reported through the medical chain of command, same thing with athletic trainers, they don't report through Hollis.
lack of oversight does not reduce culpability.
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lack of oversight does not reduce culpability.
Just a point that Hollis shouldn't have to be punished for lack of oversight if Nassar wasn't a part of his jurisdiction.

I personally feel that you should be punished or lose your job if you are responsible, not if people below you aren't responsible. Just an example, I don't think Snyder should have stepped down over the Flint water crisis, it was a horrible situation and those responsible were fired, but just being at the top doesn't mean that you should fall for what happens below you. That's my take, some people think that those at the top should resign, but using that logic, parents should be responsible for crimes their kids commit.
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