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Game 86 Tigers vs. indians July 8, 2017

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Tigers lineup:
1. Ian Kinsler, 2B
2. Alex Avila, C
3. Justin Upton, LF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. J.D. Martinez, RF
6. Victor Martinez, DH
7. Nicholas Castellanos, 3B
8. Mikie Mahtook, CF
9. Jose Iglesias, SS
Justin Verlander RHP
Bench: C James McCann, IF/OF Andrew Romine, IF Dixon Machado, OF Alex Presley.

asshole indians lineup:
kipnis 2b
lindor ss
brantley lf
roider dh
huge fuck face ramirez 3b
chisenhall rf
huge hotdog and shithook santana 1b
zimmer cf
smegma breath c
clevinger p

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2017/07/tigers_indians_preview_1.html#incart_river_index
Tigers, Indians preview: Justin Verlander aiming to even series Saturday night.
Mlive

http://m.tigers.mlb.com/news/articl...to-avenge-loss-to-clevinger/?topicId=26688836
Verlander gets another shot at Clevinger, Tribe.
Tigers official site

http://www.baseball-reference.com/previews/2017/CLE201707080.shtml
Cleveland Indians vs. Detroit Tigers, at Progressive Field, July 8, 2017 Matchups, Tickets, Preview.
Baseball Reference

Tigers by the numbers:
Overall: 38-47
Current streak: L1
At Comerica Park: 23-20
On the road: 15-27
Day games: 20-15
Night games: 18-32
vs. AL East: 8-9
vs. AL Central: 19-15
vs. AL West: 7-17
vs. NL: 4-6

Tigers record when...
Scoring first: 21-20
Opponent scores first: 17-27
Scoring 5 or more: 31-12
Scoring 4 or less: 7-35
Extra innings: 0-3
One-run games: 10-13
Two-run games: 5-8
Tigers get Quality Start: 27-19
Tigers starter works 6+ innings: 30-21
Lead after 6th/7th/8th inning: 34-7/33-7/34-4
Trail after 6th/7th/8th inning: 0-35/1-37/0-40
Tied after 6th/7th/8th inning: 4-5/4-3/4-3
Tigers outhit opponent: 26-9
Opponent outhits Tigers: 10-33
Tigers hit a home run: 37-24
Tigers don't hit a home run: 1-23
Come-from-behind wins: 22

Three things to know about this game:
Verlander's curveball has been one of his best pitches, and that has continued this season. Per Statcast, Verlander has thrown his hook 334 times, and opponents are only hitting .240 against the pitch. He has recorded 78 called strikes and 31 whiffs with his curve, and has struck out 23 with it.

Three Indians have hit over .340 in at least 25 career at-bats against Verlander. Jose Ramirez is 11-for-25 (.440) with two homers and five RBIs, Francisco Lindor is 9-for-26 (.346) with a homer and seven RBIs and Lonnie Chisenhall is 15-for-44 (.341) with three homers and 10 RBIs.
Verlander, however, has had Jason Kipnis' number. Facing Verlander, the Indians' second baseman has gone 6-for-55 with four RBIs, nine walks and 16 strikeouts.

Indians president of baseball operations Chris Antonetti said on Friday that the team is expecting to activate first baseman Carlos Santana from the paternity list prior to Saturday's game. Santana has hit eight career homers against Verlander, which is the most home runs Verlander has allowed against any other player. Former Indian Jim Thome is next with seven homers.
 
These are my favorite..

roider dh
huge fuck face ramirez 3b

Lol.
 
I know the offense didn't do shit and that's one problem, but it was a 1 run game in the bottom of the 8th. I'm fine with putting Rondon in, but hasn't Brad seen enough of him to know that when he's off he's OFF! Why leave him in until it's out of reach?
 
Barely got my rally cap on and there's 2 outs already..
 
At least they didn't light up JV tonight. Pitched a nice ball game.
 
I know the offense didn't do shit and that's one problem, but it was a 1 run game in the bottom of the 8th. I'm fine with putting Rondon in, but hasn't Brad seen enough of him to know that when he's off he's OFF! Why leave him in until it's out of reach?

Completely agree..
 
Justin Verlander's up and down first half of 2017 will end with him getting out-dueled by a second-year pitcher best known for his long hair.

Verlander in 6 2/3 innings walked four, but two of those were intentional. JV struck out 6 batters. Five of his six hits allowed were doubles.

For the second game in a row, the Tigers had only one extra-base hit (and no home runs). The Tigers are 1-24 when failing to hit a home run in 2017.

NOTABLE:
Indians second baseman Jason Kipnis left the game with right hamstring soreness. He appeared to pull up lame as he ran out a grounder in the third inning.

Justin Verlander didn't strike out his first batter until the last out of the fourth inning when he K'd Bradley Zimmer.
It was his first strikeout since the sixth inning of the game against the Kansas City Royals on June 27, a 40-batter span.
With the drought in the rear-view mirror, Verlander then struck out the next two batters he faced to lead off the fifth inning.
His fastball was more lively than it?s been in recent starts. Not just in terms of velocity (96-98 mph) but with late movement, as well. JV got 12 called strikes with it.
He also dusted off his change-up, throwing eight of them, two to get left-handed hitter Chisenhall out (ground out and swing-and-miss strikeout).
But for the fifth time in 18 of his starts, the Tigers were limited to two runs or less.

The Tigers appeared to have a legitimate beef in the sixth inning when Carlos Santana stepped in front of home plate as he swung at a third strike, blocking catcher Alex Avila's throw to second base.
The Tigers argued for an interference call, but home plate umpire Marvin Hudson didn't relent.
Verlander got a pop out to end the inning, so the baserunner ultimately didn't matter.

Verlander shook off his latest struggle against the Indians on July 2 to pitch six-plus strong innings, showing better command but not enough for him to be considered around the corner of his inconsistent pitching this season.

The Indians tacked on three more runs in the eighth off reliever Bruce Rondon. With one out, he lost an 11-pitch battle with Lonnie Chisenhall, walking him. Carlos Santana brought him home with a double and he scored on a triple by Bradley Zimmer.

Tigers second baseman Ian Kinsler drew a lead-off walk in the first inning and then very narrowly avoided being picked off on three separate instances. On the fourth try, Clevinger nabbed Kinsler for the first out of the game.

MOMENTS THAT MATTERED
Clevinger thwarts early chance: The Tigers had their leadoff runner on base in each of the first two innings, but didn't advance either. The more costly chance was their first, with Ian Kinsler drawing a walk ahead of the middle of the order. Clevinger nearly nabbed him on three pickoff throws, then caught Kinsler too far off base on the fourth, retiring him just before Justin Upton's single.

Brantley battles for RBI: Verlander struck out six of nine Indians hitters from the fourth inning into the sixth, but could not finish off Brantley after a 1-2 count. Brantley fouled off a curveball, fastball and slider from Verlander before running the count full, then turning on a curveball over the plate and lining it off the fence in right-center.

Zimmer's strikeout to end the fourth inning was Verlander's first strikeout since fanning Kansas City's Alex Gordon to end the sixth inning on June 27. Verlander went 41 batters between strikeouts; 38 of those batters were Cleveland Indians.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/tigers-...409#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=491409
Boxscore.

Roars
Justin Verlander: JV exorcised some demons in this one. 6 2⁄3 innings, one earned run, six strikeouts and six hits. He walked four, but two were of the intentional variety.

Hisses
Ian Kinsler: Picked off in the first inning after a walk. Reverted to pop-up machine form the rest of the night. The stalwart second bases has played some nice stretches of baseball this year, but still hasn?t really gone into high gear for any length of time.

Bruce Rondon: Struggled with his command, while the Indians fouled off two-strike pitch after two-strike pitch. Allowed three earned runs. Threw a few decent changeups. Varied his delivery in interesting ways. Did hit 101 mph on the gun for the first time in a long while...so we?ve got that going for us, which is okay I guess. He got clobbered anyway.

The whole damn offense: Big swings, big wind.

And so it went, the Tigers, losers of another series, lifeless offensively once again, any fantasy they could climb back into the race with a couple big wins overshadowed by the reality that this team is officially done.
 
One thing I know, Rondon or no Rondon - you don't score any runs the chance of winning is like 10%.
 
There's only 9 teams ahead of us to get that last wildcard spot.. Hope!!
 
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According to Elias Sports, the Tigers have been shut out 14 times in games started by Justin Verlander since 2012.
Only Jeff Samardzija (18), John Lackey (15) and Julio Teheran (14) have endured the same lack of run support.
 
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