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Game 125 Tigers vs. yankees August 23, 2017

Wednesday night felt depressingly similar to the night before. And too many nights before that.
Same story, different night — another non-competitive baseball game played by the Tigers.

If Justin Verlander or Michael Fulmer isn’t starting for the Tigers, the game is likely to follow what has become a very familiar and tedious script.

The Yankees scored five times in the third inning Wednesday and were never hedged, beating the Tigers 10-2. It was the Tigers’ eighth loss in nine games, and in six of those, the Tigers faced deep early deficits.

The last time the Tigers won a game not started by Verlander was Aug. 2. The rest of the rotation since that win, including Fulmer, had gone 0-9 with a 9.28 ERA and a .354 opponents’ batting average before Wednesday.

Starting pitcher Jordan Zimmermann was battered early, the Detroit Tigers fell into a big hole and the New York Yankees cruised to a 10-2 victory.
Zimmermann allowed seven runs for the third straight start; Tigers lost for 14th time in 17 games.
For just the fourth time in his 11-year career, Zimmermann didn’t record a strikeout. Two of the previous three starts without a strikeout were last season.

Yankees catcher Gary Sanchez hit another first-inning home run, although this one didn't quite go 493 feet, like his blast on Tuesday.

Sanchez came up with the bases loaded in the third and delivered a two-run, bloop single to give the Yankees a 3-0 lead.

That was all they would need with Luis Severino on the mound. He struck out eight in 6 2/3 innings, surrendering only a solo home run to Ian Kinsler in the sixth.
Severino allowed six hits and a run over 6 2/3 innings. He struck out eight. On the night, the Tigers struck out 13 times. Former Tigers farm hand Chad Green struck out four in 1 1/3 innings.

Shortstop Jose Iglesias added a two-out, two-strike home run in the bottom of the ninth.

NOTABLE
Zimmermann is the first Tiger to give up seven or more earned runs in three consecutive starts since Tommy Bridges and Schoolboy Rowe both did so in 1935, the year the Tigers won their 2nd World Series.

Jeremy Bonderman also had three consecutive starts allowing more than seven earned runs, but they stretched over different seasons and different teams. The first two came with the Tigers in 2010; the last one came in 2013 with the Seattle Mariners.

They have been outscored 22-5 in the first two games of a three-game set against the New York Yankees.

With the loss, the Tigers fall to 54-71, 17 games under the .500 mark for the first time since Sept. 29, 2005.

Zimmermann has allowed 21 runs and 27 hits in his last 13 2/3 innings.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/yankees...nal,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=491989
Boxscore.

The only other takeaway from this game is that Luis Severino is really good. Anyway...

Roars
Ian Kinsler: Ok, a home run, you get a roar.

Jose Iglesias: Hey, a home run, you get one as well.

Hisses
Jordan Zimmermann: Yeah this isn’t working out. Poor location, poor depth on his slider, and a lot of hard contact again. No strikeouts.

Stats and Info
I’ve got nothing to offer right here. Your team is bad. My team is bad. But, as Leonard Cohen would’ve told you, Everybody Knows.
 
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so if you do a shitty job at work...it's your boss's fault or yours?

I don't buy that shit for one minute. It's called personal responsibility. It seems that nobody has any anymore. It's always someone else's fault!


As the manager, Brad chooses his own coaches...hitting, pitching, bench coach...etc. He chooses the lineups and who pitches. Yes talent wins and 90% of the time, decisions made by a manager are the same that any other manager would make. But you missing a point.

People (coaches and players) have to have respect for their manager. Low morale can sink a ship, even with a star laden team. And sometimes, a change will change the environment.

Most ardent defenders of Ausmus cannot articulate one thing that he consistently does right and that even with Bozo the Clown as manager, we would be the same.

While his critics have a laundry list of the things he does that most managers wouldn't do and sense that Bozo the Clown would be an improvement.
 
As the manager, Brad chooses his own coaches...hitting, pitching, bench coach...etc. He chooses the lineups and who pitches. Yes talent wins and 90% of the time, decisions made by a manager are the same that any other manager would make. But you missing a point.

People (coaches and players) have to have respect for their manager. Low morale can sink a ship, even with a star laden team. And sometimes, a change will change the environment.

Most ardent defenders of Ausmus cannot articulate one thing that he consistently does right and that even with Bozo the Clown as manager, we would be the same.

While his critics have a laundry list of the things he does that most managers wouldn't do and sense that Bozo the Clown would be an improvement.

you are blaming the Tiger's shitty record on low morale?
 
you are blaming the Tiger's shitty record on low morale?

You could say they don't have any fight in them which could effect winning more. As far as Ausmus, when pitchers struggle or hitters - we don't seem to have the coaches - HC and PC to figure anything out. Why can't they seem to work players out of a hitting slump or maybe change the way a pitcher's arm motion is messed up or something. If they are they awfully quiet about it.. With today's media that's impossible.
 
Who thinks that Ausmus should return next season as the Tigers' manager? And after he gets fired about three days after the season ends, what major league team will hire him as their next manager?
 
Who thinks that Ausmus should return next season as the Tigers' manager? And after he gets fired about three days after the season ends, what major league team will hire him as their next manager?

Maybe a base coach. I doubt he'd get more than that.. He won't be another manager again.
 
Maybe a base coach. I doubt he'd get more than that.. He won't be another manager again.

Let him go to A ball or even short-season or rookie ball. He needs to make his mistakes where the stakes are not so valuable. If he's humble and really wants to manage professional baseball, he'll consider that.
 
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Let him go to A ball or even short-season or rookie ball. He needs to make his mistakes where the stakes are not so valuable. If he's humble and really wants to manage professional baseball, he'll consider that.

Some other organization. I don't want him teaching Detroit's young kids.
 
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