Spartanmack said:

29 points in the 2nd half against PSU. Pathetic.

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It was 31 and the 41 we gave up in the 1st half was a bigger problem.

LuciousGameWinner said:

And if you think Van Dyke should get playing time you're a bigger fool.

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who should play over him when Ward and Bridges need rests?

gotime909 said:

who should play over him when Ward and Bridges need rests?

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Goins. My point is that he should not touch the center position. He can play the 4 at most 5-8 minutes a game.

LuciousGameWinner said:

Goins. My point is that he should not touch the center position. He can play the 4 at most 5-8 minutes a game.

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And when Goins went out with an ankle? Who should play then?

Missed the game. Happy I did

lucke said:

And when Goins went out with an ankle? Who should play then?

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Rather have Bridges there.

gotime909 said:

It was 31 and the 41 we gave up in the 1st half was a bigger problem.

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They gave up 44 in the first half and scoring just 31 against a team like PSU is still a huge problem. This team has no reliable offense.

Spartanmack said:

They gave up 44 in the first half and scoring just 31 against a team like PSU is still a huge problem. This team has no reliable offense.

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I think a lot of that has to do with the half court offense. My middle school team ran a better offense than MSU. This team is good when they can run and create plays when the defense isn't set. Put them in a half court game and it's going to be ugly. We'll score 40 points against Wisconsin this year. That game is going to awful to watch.

LuciousGameWinner said:

I think a lot of that has to do with the half court offense. My middle school team ran a better offense than MSU. This team is good when they can run and create plays when the defense isn't set. Put them in a half court game and it's going to be ugly. We'll score 40 points against Wisconsin this year. That game is going to awful to watch.

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It was so tough to watch that offense in person, Penn State defended well but I put more blame on the offensive sets that were being run. It was the same play every single time up the floor. Guys were literally standing around for 20 seconds. I've said from the beginning of the season any team that slows us down and mucks it up into a half court game has good odds of beating us.

LuciousGameWinner said:

I think a lot of that has to do with the half court offense. My middle school team ran a better offense than MSU. This team is good when they can run and create plays when the defense isn't set. Put them in a half court game and it's going to be ugly. We'll score 40 points against Wisconsin this year. That game is going to awful to watch.

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I agree and I would take a step further and say it's almost entirely due to the half court offense. Right now, it's just the PG dribbling out the clock while at least 3 guys stand around the perimeter and watch, until they realize they're about to get another shot clock violation. I'm actually more concerned about how we're going to look against Illinois - at least Wisconsin has a good team that plays solid defense - many of our worst games in the last 5 or 6 years have been against illinois. We've lost to them 59-54, 53-46 and 42-41 and beaten them 60-53 in the last 5 years. We did beat them pretty soundly 3 times over that stretch but those other 4 have to be among the 5 or 10 worst games since 2012. We've looked pretty bad in some games against Wisconsin, but Wisconsin usually puts a solid team on the floor - not so with Illinois.