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Prince resigned for 4 years 27 million

tigers99888 said:
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Danny Diggler[/color]]Chauncey was considered a bust and was a FA that nobody else wanted. Rip was traded to the Pistons for Hubert Davis and Bobby Simmons, Big L O L. And Sheed had so much baggage he was traded twice that season, and traded to us for Bobby Sura, Z and the 32nd overall pick.

So why the fuck does it matter where they were drafted? Did the teams that drafted them that high win jack shit?? Washington had sheed and Rip at 3rd and 7th. They should have held on to them and won the ship the year Rip was drafted..

How many teams have won through the draft? A couple nice pieces through the draft and adding missing pieces through trades and FA. Dumars is holding onto assets and is buying low and going to sell them high.
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That shit doesn't happen anymore and I don't know if you have noticed, but Prince's defense has majory declined the last 4 years.. He's above average at best, which is fine.. I would have accepted a 1 year deal possibly for unloading purposes, but 4 years is a goddamn joke.. And it's a given this isn't a sign and trade deal..
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He's just making over what Maxiel makes and is very tradeable at that price.. Also what is the point of Prince playing all out lockdown D the past four years when they are out of the playoff race by christmas with a jackass coach?
 
[color=#551A8B said:
BestIsBest[/color]]
[quote="Danny Diggler":9wx9163o]

So why not cut Gordon CV and Rip and eat the money to tank? Theres a 40% chance they get the #1 overall pick...
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Not that simple.[/quote:9wx9163o]

Turn on you're sarcasm detector...
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
tigers99888 said:
That shit doesn't happen anymore and I don't know if you have noticed, but Prince's defense has majory declined the last 4 years.. He's above average at best, which is fine.. I would have accepted a 1 year deal possibly for unloading purposes, but 4 years is a goddamn joke.. And it's a given this isn't a sign and trade deal..
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He's just making over what Maxiel makes and is very tradeable at that price.. Also what is the point of Prince playing all out lockdown D the past four years when they are out of the playoff race by christmas with a jackass coach?
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His skills have diminished, not just his defense.. You are reaching.. He is not NEARLY has athletic as he was in 2005-2006.. The only difference is he's given the green light to look for his shot and score more than he did with the championship starting 5.. If you check RIP is still leading in scoring as well and he's obviously on the decline..
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
[quote="BestIsBest":7ah83co1]

Not that simple.
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Turn on you're sarcasm detector...[/quote:7ah83co1]

With your knowledge of the current NBA I thought you were serious..
 
[color=#551A8B said:
BestIsBest[/color]]
[quote="Danny Diggler":kn18a5eo]

Turn on you're sarcasm detector...
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With your knowledge of the current NBA I thought you were serious..[/quote:kn18a5eo]Lawl...
 
tigers99888 said:
[color=#551A8B said:
BestIsBest[/color]]

With your knowledge of the current NBA I thought you were serious..
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Lawl...
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Because those teams in the lottery every year are doing sooo well.


Oklahoma city is the one exception. Doing well through the draft.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
tigers99888 said:
Lawl...
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Because those teams in the lottery every year are doing sooo well.


Oklahoma city is the one exception. Doing well through the draft.
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And the Clippers is another.. In Fact the majority of teams that had a lottery pick is in better shape than us ATM...
 
tigers99888 said:
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]

Because those teams in the lottery every year are doing sooo well.


Oklahoma city is the one exception. Doing well through the draft.
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And the Clippers is another.. In Fact the majority of teams that had a lottery pick is in better shape than us ATM...
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Clippers dont count, they have been in the lottery for 20 years.
 
Way to derail the thread... CLippers have a brighter future than the pistons atm... ANd notice this occurred in this era... 20 years ago is irrelevent now...
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
tigers99888 said:
Lawl...
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Because those teams in the lottery every year are doing sooo well.


Oklahoma city is the one exception. Doing well through the draft.
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Dumbass I'm not saying we need to be in the lottery every year. We need to tank hard this year so we dont have to be there ever again. A guy like Drummond or Davis would do that for us.
 
Dumbass... You got me bad duuue.. If we had a top 3 pick it would be a certain success. Darko, Olowokandi, Kwami, Oden, Stromile Swift, Jay Williams, Thabeet, and Adam Morrison are all on your side. Nobody knows how those kids will end up its a crap shoot.
 
I don't think it was a good sign but your guys' logic on rip and chauncey is ridiculously flawed. Hell you had a #1 pick on your team in Kwame.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
BestIsBest[/color]]
[quote="Danny Diggler":jh9zqm94]

Like the last time the Pistons won the ship? Prince was the only starter drafted...
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You cant win like that any more anyway.
The era of a good starting 5 winning a championship is over. You NEED a star. As sad as it is. Im taking it your not to knowledgeable about the NBA.[/quote:jh9zqm94]

Funny, this is what people said before, during, and after 2004.
 
Wait, someone used the Clippers as an example of a team that's done well building through the draft??

Holllllly shit.
 
The draft, just like the rest of basketball operations, still comes down to making smart decisions. OKC has one of the best talent evaluators/cap magicians in the league. OKC is a perennial contender now because Presti made the most of his high draft picks. The Clippers/Wolves did the same thing but are still mostly failures because they couldn't consistently pick good players. Clippers have Blake and Gordon, Wolves have Love. That's still better than we have, but obviously both teams should have gotten better players in other drafts.

Also, OKC is not the only example. How about Cleveland, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, and New Orleans? One player completely changed the entire fortunes of those franchises. Cleveland went to nobodies to contenders. Orlando went from overspending idiots to contenders. Miami won a championship. Chicago went from limited young upstarts to having the best record in the league. New Orleans nearly won the West. Even to a lesser extent there is Toronto (made playoffs twice with Bosh), Denver (consistent 50 win seasons with Melo), and Portland (washed away Jail-Blazers era with Aldridge and Roy until injuries hit).

And that's not even counting the Spurs, who landed Duncan and became a multiple championship team.

Dumars has not made a good basketball decision outside the draft in nearly half a decade. It's time he stopped trying to bridge a gap when the bridge is destroying anything on the other side.
 
everyoneneedsasmil said:
The draft, just like the rest of basketball operations, still comes down to making smart decisions. OKC has one of the best talent evaluators/cap magicians in the league. OKC is a perennial contender now because Presti made the most of his high draft picks. The Clippers/Wolves did the same thing but are still mostly failures because they couldn't consistently pick good players. Clippers have Blake and Gordon, Wolves have Love. That's still better than we have, but obviously both teams should have gotten better players in other drafts.

Also, OKC is not the only example. How about Cleveland, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, and New Orleans? One player completely changed the entire fortunes of those franchises. Cleveland went to nobodies to contenders. Orlando went from overspending idiots to contenders. Miami won a championship. Chicago went from limited young upstarts to having the best record in the league. New Orleans nearly won the West. Even to a lesser extent there is Toronto (made playoffs twice with Bosh), Denver (consistent 50 win seasons with Melo), and Portland (washed away Jail-Blazers era with Aldridge and Roy until injuries hit).

And that's not even counting the Spurs, who landed Duncan and became a multiple championship team.

Dumars has not made a good basketball decision outside the draft in nearly half a decade. It's time he stopped trying to bridge a gap when the bridge is destroying anything on the other side.
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I agree with some of this but largely aof these teams spent on free agents or trades.

Cleveland went out n got people,Orlando went out n got people, Miami went out n got Shaq, New Orleans was never a "contender but had a nice team, Denver played better after they dealt Melo. I realize it all started with one player but to build a contendar 90% time you need trades or free agency.
 
Beez said:
everyoneneedsasmil said:
The draft, just like the rest of basketball operations, still comes down to making smart decisions. OKC has one of the best talent evaluators/cap magicians in the league. OKC is a perennial contender now because Presti made the most of his high draft picks. The Clippers/Wolves did the same thing but are still mostly failures because they couldn't consistently pick good players. Clippers have Blake and Gordon, Wolves have Love. That's still better than we have, but obviously both teams should have gotten better players in other drafts.

Also, OKC is not the only example. How about Cleveland, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, and New Orleans? One player completely changed the entire fortunes of those franchises. Cleveland went to nobodies to contenders. Orlando went from overspending idiots to contenders. Miami won a championship. Chicago went from limited young upstarts to having the best record in the league. New Orleans nearly won the West. Even to a lesser extent there is Toronto (made playoffs twice with Bosh), Denver (consistent 50 win seasons with Melo), and Portland (washed away Jail-Blazers era with Aldridge and Roy until injuries hit).

And that's not even counting the Spurs, who landed Duncan and became a multiple championship team.

Dumars has not made a good basketball decision outside the draft in nearly half a decade. It's time he stopped trying to bridge a gap when the bridge is destroying anything on the other side.
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I agree with some of this but largely aof these teams spent on free agents or trades.

Cleveland went out n got people,Orlando went out n got people, Miami went out n got Shaq, New Orleans was never a "contender but had a nice team, Denver played better after they dealt Melo. I realize it all started with one player but to build a contendar 90% time you need trades or free agency.
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I'm not denying that you need trades and FA, but I think we both understand that trades and FA for teams outside the big markets are used in totally different ways. You don't build a team that way anymore, you supplement an existing core. The players that could legitimately make up a championship core either aren't changing teams or aren't signing in a small market. That's the point.

Teams not in LA, NY, or Boston have to build the core through the draft, then fill in around it with the right trades and free agents. If they don't have the core, then the free agents won't come or won't make much of an impact. If they have the core, but mess of FA/trades, their core players will leave. Big markets will always have a massive advantage, but the rest of the league still at least has an avenue to competing.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]For all we know Knight could be that guy
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1/3 of the players on last year's All-NBA teams were picked later than him.
 
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