Fuck you tony dungy

Ability to understand the games nuances, zero.
Ability to lead and inspire, negative infinity.

There is NOTHING positive with this guy. The 2008 0-16 season was more enjoyable to watch. Didn't think it was possible to have worse coaching, but at least in 2008 the obvious problem was lack of talent on the team. This team had enough talent last year to make the playoffs, so there is a degree of talent on this team relative to 2008 that makes this mostly a coaching problem. He is a quitter who has lost his players respect. The only solution at this point is a coaching change, which should have happened already. You quit on the organization, they need to quit you. Fuck you Caldwell. I would say be a man and resign, alas you don't know when you actually should quit versus when you should not, yet again demonstrating your poor judgment and leadership abilities.

The Lions just went WAY too far in the other direction in their coaching search.

I understand they wanted to get away from Schwartz and his "I don't give a fuck lets play street football" mentality.......but Caldwell seems just as bad in a totally different way.

It's like Hughes and LKP.......both trolls.....neither know anything about the game......but TOTALLY different perspectives on the team.

What are the Fords gonna do now?? Back to a Schwartz type guy?? Fuck it, lets hire PJ Fleck and "row the boat" for a couple years!!!!! (ps......I HATE that fucking mantra.....I cannot wait for him to leave Kalamazoo so I don't have to hear that anymore)!

Serious question, who is or will be out there for GM and HC that we can/should hire?

kingofdetroit57 said:

Serious question, who is or will be out there for GM and HC that we can/should hire?

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Doesn't matter. This is not working, you don't look around and see if you want to continue to do what is not working. You stop what is not working and then try something else.

johnny2x2x said:

Doesn't matter. This is not working, you don't look around and see if you want to continue to do what is not working. You stop what is not working and then try something else.

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They did, they went to DanO

brewer229 said:

They did, they went to DanO

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Then you go option 3 and then 4 and 5 if necessary. And keep on doing until you get it right.

Honestly, I'd have Matt on a short leash. 1st half against Chicago if we're not scoring point's and Matt isn't doing good.. Dan O is the starter for the rest of the year.

Matt was told at halftime, another INT your benched. And that's what happened. So after the game he had an interview basically saying he was shocked. The guys an idiot.

johnny2x2x said:

Doesn't matter. This is not working, you don't look around and see if you want to continue to do what is not working. You stop what is not working and then try something else.

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That doesn't answer my question... I was simply asking who is or will be out there. That question in no way should be taken as me wanting to keep Mayhew or Caldwell. I think we should clean house. I hated the Mayhew hire, didn't love the Caldwell hire, and can see that it isn't working too. I'm just asking who we could pursue to replace these clowns since I don't know what options are or will be on the market.

Here is an article looking at candidates for the Miami coaching job in 2016.

http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/10/7/9459431/dolphins-coaching-change-candidates-for-2016

Here is an article looking at GM candidates:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nager-candidates-new-names-and-familiar-faces

Mitchrapp said:

Honestly, I'd have Matt on a short leash. 1st half against Chicago if we're not scoring point's and Matt isn't doing good.. Dan O is the starter for the rest of the year.

Matt was told at halftime, another INT your benched. And that's what happened. So after the game he had an interview basically saying he was shocked. The guys an idiot.

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I didnt get the impression that he was shocked - he is the one who told reporters about the conversation with caldwell. It seemed to me he was more annoyed than surprised, like he thought he should have stayed in or something.

Regardless, if he doesnt look average against CHI, send him packing

Stafford threw a pick on the Lions' first series of the second half, was benched and apparently was surprised by what happened.

"I was a little caught off-guard, to be honest," Stafford told the Detroit Free Press on Monday. "I went out there and tried to play aggressive. We're down 21 points. Try and get us back in the ballgame. Tried to make a big play to Calvin Johnson, and obviously Patrick Peterson made a good play, intercepted the football ... and I got to watch the rest of the night.

"Not something I'm accustomed to being around."

kingofdetroit57 said:

That doesn't answer my question... I was simply asking who is or will be out there. That question in no way should be taken as me wanting to keep Mayhew or Caldwell. I think we should clean house. I hated the Mayhew hire, didn't love the Caldwell hire, and can see that it isn't working too. I'm just asking who we could pursue to replace these clowns since I don't know what options are or will be on the market.

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I think its harder (for fans) to list potential replacement GM's because they operate behind the scenes mostly, and aren't very well known. Plus their job roles all are different, some are strictly the numbers/contract guys, and let someone else draft/build the team. Other GMs are the opposite (Like Mayhew)...then you have the GM's which handle everything - Contracts/Draft/Free Agents/etc.

More than likely, the Lions would hire another teams assistant GM or VP of operations, and I cant name a single one of those lol.


For the Coaches...thats a bit more interesting - every year there are usually 1 or 2 'hot' coaches available at the end of the season. I would like the Lions to for once be able to jump on whoever that is, and not wait until 1/2 months after the season to make a coaching change. Pagano could be available, and rumors are floating around that Payton may be had via a trade if the Saints dont improve this year. Then you always have atleast 5 college coaches named as potential suitors..


My ideal situation would be Harbaugh wins the NC with UofM this year, then bolts to the Lions next year. I know that would never happen, but for you Michigan fans out there ( I am not one) how would you react if that happened? Happy or Pissed?

brewer229 said:

Here is an article looking at candidates for the Miami coaching job in 2016.

http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/10/7/9459431/dolphins-coaching-change-candidates-for-2016

Here is an article looking at GM candidates:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nager-candidates-new-names-and-familiar-faces

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Thanks!

Lots of 'meh' on that coaching list.