Alabama and IVF

[Cam]

An Alabama Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos can be considered "extrauterine children" under state law has major implications for how in vitro fertilization, commonly called IVF, is performed.

The ruling came in a wrongful death lawsuit brought by couples whose frozen embryos were destroyed in an accident at a fertility clinic in Mobile, Ala. The court agreed with the couples that the embryos were protected under the state's Wrongful Death of a Minor Act. Legal and reproductive medicine experts say the ruling raises the risks and costs of IVF for both patients and medical practitioners.


Already, at least three providers in Alabama have announced that they are pausing IVF treatments in light of last Friday's court ruling. And an Alabama lawmaker has said he will introduce state legislation that would clarify that IVF can continue in the state. For the moment, the legal ramifications for IVF only affect Alabama. That could change as other states adopt "personhood" statutes that say life, and rights, begin at conception.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ozen-embryo-personhood-abortion-supreme-court

I listened to podcast about this earlier this week, but this would be fallout from the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Alabama rules that frozen embryos are considered life as well, making all of these clinics potentially liable for murder if the process of IVF is unsuccessful. In response, the major clinics have paused operation for the time being. You'd think that couples would be able to transfer these embryos to a clinic in another state, but there's also the fear of embryos being damaged in the shipping process, so all of these embryos are just stuck at these clinics at the moment.

How do you guys feel about this issue? Even if you are a hardcore conservative that is 100% against abortion, it seems pretty crazy to make IVF impossible.

 

[Spartanmack]

Murder seems like a bit of a stretch and just more hyperbole from the left who let their hair on fire any time someone tells them it's wrong to murder babies. No one gets charged with murder when someone dies on the operating table or in the emergency room. They don't even charge doctors for murder when they actually mutilate an unborn baby in the womb ripping it limb from limb, cutting it's spine and yanking the parts out. I don't see how unsuccessful IVF would be different.

 

[Michchamp]

Murder seems like a bit of a stretch and just more hyperbole from the left who let their hair on fire any time someone tells them it's wrong to murder babies. No one gets charged with murder when someone dies on the operating table or in the emergency room. They don't even charge doctors for murder when they actually mutilate an unborn baby in the womb ripping it limb from limb, cutting it's spine and yanking the parts out. I don't see how unsuccessful IVF would be different.

IVF clinics are "the left" now?

 

[sggatecl]

It appears the drama will have a short shelf life. Seems they're dotting the i's, crossing the t's, and making sure that the Alabama baby factory is in working order asap.

Alabama lawmakers advance legislation to protect IVF providers, with final approval still ahead

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Alabama lawmakers facing public pressure to restart in vitro fertilization services in the state advanced legislation Tuesday to shield providers from the fallout of a court ruling that equated frozen embryos to children.

Committees in the state Senate and House approved identical bills that would protect providers from lawsuits and criminal prosecution for the “damage or death of an embryo” during IVF services. The state’s three major IVF providers paused services after the Alabama Supreme Court’s ruling last month because of the sweeping liability concerns it raised.

“The problem we are trying to solve right now is to get those families back on track to be moving forward as they try to have children,” said Rep. Terri Collins, sponsor of one of the bills. Lawmakers are aiming to give final approval Wednesday and send the legislation to Gov. Kay Ivey to be signed into law.

Lawmakers have fast-tracked the immunity legislation as a proposed solution to get clinics back open as they weigh whether additional action is needed.

The court ruled that three couples who had frozen embryos destroyed in an accident at a storage facility could pursue wrongful death lawsuits for their “extrauterine children.” The ruling, treating an embryo the same as a child or gestating fetus under the wrongful death statute, raised concerns about civil liabilities for clinics.

 

[Michchamp]

It appears the drama will have a short shelf life. Seems they're dotting the i's, crossing the t's, and making sure that the Alabama baby factory is in working order asap.

Alabama lawmakers advance legislation to protect IVF providers, with final approval still ahead

if only poor single mothers and rape victims could afford the lobbyists that IVF Clinics hired to put things right here...

 

[Spartanmack]

IVF clinics are "the left" now?

who said that?

 

[Spartanmack]

if only poor single mothers and rape victims could afford the lobbyists that IVF Clinics hired to put things right here...

If only poor single mom's could afford the lobbyists - think about how many more babies they could kill...

Rape victims make up less than 1% of elective abortions and most people support some amount of legal abortion and virtually all of them include rape and incest victims. but you keep pretending that's what this is all about...