a little CO2 alarmism

[redandguilty]

http://science.time.com/2013/01/29/...ntal-fact-in-the-world/?xid=newsletter-weekly

China uses about as much coal as the rest of the world combined. That can't be the end of the story. It wasn't that long ago that the US was the biggest coal user, was it? If the US still uses, say...75% of the coal China uses, that would mean the US + China are using over 80% of the coal getting used.

It's the Big 2, Little 194. That's hard to believe. Is there that much nuclear power in Europe, or what are they using?

 

[redandguilty]

We're using about a quarter of what China is now using now. So it's the big 1, little 195.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=coal+use+in+the+US,+coal+use+in+China

 

[Michchamp]

http://science.time.com/2013/01/29/...ntal-fact-in-the-world/?xid=newsletter-weekly

China uses about as much coal as the rest of the world combined. That can't be the end of the story. It wasn't that long ago that the US was the biggest coal user, was it? It the US still uses, say...75% of the coal China uses, that would mean the US + China are using over 80% of the coal getting used.

It's the Big 2, Little 194. That's hard to believe. Is there that much nuclear power in Europe, or what are they using?

Guessing Europe uses nuclear, hydro-electric, oil, and natural gas more than China does, as oil & natural gas are more expensive than coal, but marginally cleaner, if SimCity was accurate.

Europe also has about 600 million fewer people than China (1.3 Billion to 0.71 billion) so... factor that in

 

[Michchamp]

air conditions in China are by many accounts, absolutely horrible. so at least locally, we may see them hit the "carrying capacity" of their environment sooner than later.

other industrial countries went through this at some point: see here or here.

 

[redandguilty]

Guessing Europe uses nuclear, hydro-electric, oil, and natural gas more than China does, as oil & natural gas are more expensive than coal, but marginally cleaner, if SimCity was accurate.

Europe also has about 600 million fewer people than China (1.3 Billion to 0.71 billion) so... factor that in

I was thinking of them as being comparable to the US. Turns out, Europe uses about as much as the US, but both are small compared to China.

here's Europe
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?region=eu&product=coal&graph=consumption

 

[redandguilty]

air conditions in China are by many accounts, absolutely horrible. so at least locally, we may see them hit the "carrying capacity" of their environment sooner than later.

other industrial countries went through this at some point: see here or here.

I know. Have I ever written about grey boogers here?

 

[redandguilty]

 

[redandguilty]

inconsistent data out there. Wikipedia thinks the US was still highest in 2006. I'm guessing data from China was only an educated guess. Probably still is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_power_in_the_United_States