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Big Ten Should Try to Snag UConn

alonzomoseley said:
They would be passable in football, great for basketball.

Same with Cincy- thoughy there was a grade standard until we let Neb in.
 
Not sure about UConn.....they are a pretty small football team still that hasn't really done much. That's a pretty big risk. If they got thrown into a conference where they had to play OSU, Wisconsin Michigan, Nebraska and some of the other big ten schools every single year (obviously not all mentioned given the whole divisions thing) that could kill a program like that.

Heck look at what RR did to them last year. I'm betting that best case it would be like adding another Illinois or Northwestern to the conference - and worse case they would just fold into another Indiana.

I still think ND is our best option and with all the stuff going on - they might just be forced into it. If the BE folds they will have no other conference that just allows them to compete in every sport except Football. I think that's that's something everyone is forgetting in all of this shuffling around. If the BE truly folds - it will leave ND is a pretty bad spot.
 
I'm terrified of the super conferences happening. While sec and pac 10 are battling for teams like texas and oklahoma, I keep seeing the big ten talking about teams like uconn, pitt, rutgers. Yeah, those teams are really going to help the big ten keep up with the other super conferences. Notre dame wouldn't be a bad choice. But why isn't the big ten trying to go after texas or the sooners. Try to even steal a team from the pac 10 like oregon, or stanford. Stanford plays like a big 10 team anyway. The only big east team id want would Wvu, and I wouldn't exactly want them. You guys know a lot more about the big ten and what teams they'd acccept and that's what worries me, because I keep seeing you guys name average football teams.
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
I'm terrified of the super conferences happening. While sec and pac 10 are battling for teams like texas and oklahoma, I keep seeing the big ten talking about teams like uconn, pitt, rutgers. Yeah, those teams are really going to help the big ten keep up with the other super conferences. Notre dame wouldn't be a bad choice. But why isn't the big ten trying to go after texas or the sooners. Try to even steal a team from the pac 10 like oregon, or stanford. Stanford plays like a big 10 team anyway. The only big east team id want would Wvu, and I wouldn't exactly want them. You guys know a lot more about the big ten and what teams they'd acccept and that's what worries me, because I keep seeing you guys name average football teams.

I think it's likely we would go after Missouri and ND again. I think the UConn and Pitt stuff are nonsense because they are both essentially begging to join the ACC. I think Rutgers is an unfortunate option because of TV markets. To be honest I don't want Texas and Oklahoma - call me crazy but I wouldn't want to have to play our regular schedule + Texas or Oklahoma each year ESPECIALLY if ND ever gets great again. Nebraska, Texas/OK, PSU, OSU and ND each year? No thank you.
 
Elevating Cincy into the Big Ten would take away recruits from OSU within the state of Ohio, IMO
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Maize&Cheese304 said:
I'm terrified of the super conferences happening. While sec and pac 10 are battling for teams like texas and oklahoma, I keep seeing the big ten talking about teams like uconn, pitt, rutgers. Yeah, those teams are really going to help the big ten keep up with the other super conferences. Notre dame wouldn't be a bad choice. But why isn't the big ten trying to go after texas or the sooners. Try to even steal a team from the pac 10 like oregon, or stanford. Stanford plays like a big 10 team anyway. The only big east team id want would Wvu, and I wouldn't exactly want them. You guys know a lot more about the big ten and what teams they'd acccept and that's what worries me, because I keep seeing you guys name average football teams.

I think it's likely we would go after Missouri and ND again. I think the UConn and Pitt stuff are nonsense because they are both essentially begging to join the ACC. I think Rutgers is an unfortunate option because of TV markets. To be honest I don't want Texas and Oklahoma - call me crazy but I wouldn't want to have to play our regular schedule + Texas or Oklahoma each year ESPECIALLY if ND ever gets great again. Nebraska, Texas/OK, PSU, OSU and ND each year? No thank you.

But if we did and ran the table you could stamp National Champs on our asses!
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Maize&Cheese304 said:
I'm terrified of the super conferences happening. While sec and pac 10 are battling for teams like texas and oklahoma, I keep seeing the big ten talking about teams like uconn, pitt, rutgers. Yeah, those teams are really going to help the big ten keep up with the other super conferences. Notre dame wouldn't be a bad choice. But why isn't the big ten trying to go after texas or the sooners. Try to even steal a team from the pac 10 like oregon, or stanford. Stanford plays like a big 10 team anyway. The only big east team id want would Wvu, and I wouldn't exactly want them. You guys know a lot more about the big ten and what teams they'd acccept and that's what worries me, because I keep seeing you guys name average football teams.

I think it's likely we would go after Missouri and ND again. I think the UConn and Pitt stuff are nonsense because they are both essentially begging to join the ACC. I think Rutgers is an unfortunate option because of TV markets. To be honest I don't want Texas and Oklahoma - call me crazy but I wouldn't want to have to play our regular schedule + Texas or Oklahoma each year ESPECIALLY if ND ever gets great again. Nebraska, Texas/OK, PSU, OSU and ND each year? No thank you.


Id rather get the best teams and be considered the best conference. I mean if we get average teams while pac 12 and sec are stacked, we'll pretty much become the new and improved big east.
 
lostleader said:
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think it's likely we would go after Missouri and ND again. I think the UConn and Pitt stuff are nonsense because they are both essentially begging to join the ACC. I think Rutgers is an unfortunate option because of TV markets. To be honest I don't want Texas and Oklahoma - call me crazy but I wouldn't want to have to play our regular schedule + Texas or Oklahoma each year ESPECIALLY if ND ever gets great again. Nebraska, Texas/OK, PSU, OSU and ND each year? No thank you.

But if we did and ran the table you could stamp National Champs on our asses!
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I'm thinking undefeated seasons will be a thing of the past for the most part. 2 or 3 loss teams could possibly play for the championship
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think it's likely we would go after Missouri and ND again. I think the UConn and Pitt stuff are nonsense because they are both essentially begging to join the ACC. I think Rutgers is an unfortunate option because of TV markets. To be honest I don't want Texas and Oklahoma - call me crazy but I wouldn't want to have to play our regular schedule + Texas or Oklahoma each year ESPECIALLY if ND ever gets great again. Nebraska, Texas/OK, PSU, OSU and ND each year? No thank you.


Id rather get the best teams and be considered the best conference. I mean if we get average teams while pac 12 and sec are stacked, we'll pretty much become the new and improved big east.

Why? What does it do for you? All it does is beat your team up for 12 games and allow other conferences to coast right past you. I agree we should have decent competition but putting the best of all teams in our conference would just be dumb. The Big Ten already has OSU, Neb, Mich and PSU with Wisconsin, Iowa and MSU knocking at the door. We're never going to be the BE. All the Pac 12 is going to turn into is USC, Texas and Oklahoma - and the rest. No way in heck the other teams, like oregon, are going to stay competitive in an environment like that.

If anything the ACC is now turning into the new and improved BE. Taking Syracuse and Pitt is not exactly like they're taking Texas and Oklahoma. Not to mention they were always thought of as below the big 12, pac 10, big ten and SEC before they added those two very mediocre teams.
 
I can see oregon being good for awhile. Unless they get in trouble with the ncaa.

If they get texas and oklahoma I could see them jumping us as the 2nd best conference
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
I can see oregon being good for awhile. Unless they get in trouble with the ncaa.

If they get texas and oklahoma I could see them jumping us as the 2nd best conference

But who really cares if we're 2nd or 3rd? All I care about is Michigan and with Texas and Oklahoma in the conference it would make our chances of winning the conference and NC's a LOT worse. At some point that's more important than just being the better conference. I'm sure Vanderbilt loves being the best conference in the world!
 
Because the best plays the best. Wvu could have 1 loss this year, but who gives a shit because they're in a weaker conference.

And the big ten isn't as strong as it use to be. I'm not saying the big ten would be made fun of as badly as the big east or acc. But if a big ten team goes 10-2 and a sec or pac team goes 10-2, who do you think will be ranked higher? Or is more respected?
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
Because the best plays the best. Wvu could have 1 loss this year, but who gives a shit because they're in a weaker conference.

And the big ten isn't as strong as it use to be. I'm not saying the big ten would be made fun of as badly as the big east or acc. But if a big ten team goes 10-2 and a sec or pac team goes 10-2, who do you think will be ranked higher? Or is more respected?

Who cares, they'd still end up in a BCS bowl against the better teams in the country. Then they'd get to prove themselves. And in your situation we're still Michigan and if Michigan is ranked higher to start the season that said team who also finishes 10-2 Michigan almost certainly ends up in the hypothetical better bowl.

Remember how we smoked UConn last year? Well guess what...they played in a weaker conference, got 1 more win than us and ended up in a BCS bowl. We ended up in our conferences 5th best bowl. Now I'm not saying we should kick all the strong teams out but I am saying we are already perfectly strong enough.
 
Only because they won the conference. If not for that, our bowl would have been better than theirs. Even though they had the better record.
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
Only because they won the conference. If not for that, our bowl would have been better than theirs. Even though they had the better record.

K, but that's because of our bowl tie-ins which have always been better than most. The point being that Michigan likely would have won the BE last year and gone to a BCS bowl - and if Michigan was 12-0 in the BE we'd likely go to the NC. That whole conference strength being important thing is just a myth perpetuated by ESPN. If Michigan goes 12-0 just by name alone we're likely going to go to the NC unless teams that finished 12-0 started the season ranked above us.
 
If texas, florida, and michigan all go undefeated. And texas is a top 5, michigan is #9 and florida is #10 to start the year. With their schedule being tougher florida would jump us and end up the #2 team. And michigan would be left out of the championship game.
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
If texas, florida, and michigan all go undefeated. And texas is a top 5, michigan is #9 and florida is #10 to start the year. With their schedule being tougher florida would jump us and end up the #2 team. And michigan would be left out of the championship game.

That's not true at all. SOS factors in but only very small portions of the computer rankings. It would almost certainly come down to who "looked" better - meaning, who blew out the last few opponents. And given Michigan's last two games are against an OSU team that's likely going to be top 25 and another big ten team in the championship game that's top 25....the chances are good Michigan probably gets in.
 
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