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Doug Fister.....Ace?

A few things to add....

Of his 11 Tigers games. only 2 came against a winning teams (TEX and TBR). Only 1 game against an offense better than league average (TEX).

As an offense, CLE was 2nd to worse in strikeouts after the break. He pitched against them 4 of the 11 games. And he had 2 BB and 29 Ks in 25 IP. Leaving 45.3 IP, 3 BB and 28 Ks in the other 7 games.

It isn't just about sample size, but the quality of the sample.

Keep in mind Doyle Alexander looked unstoppable in 1987. Was he before or after?
 
rebbiv said:
A few things to add....

Of his 11 Tigers games. only 2 came against a winning teams (TEX and TBR). Only 1 game against an offense better than league average (TEX).

As an offense, CLE was 2nd to worse in strikeouts after the break. He pitched against them 4 of the 11 games. And he had 2 BB and 29 Ks in 25 IP. Leaving 45.3 IP, 3 BB and 28 Ks in the other 7 games.

It isn't just about sample size, but the quality of the sample.

Keep in mind Doyle Alexander looked unstoppable in 1987. Was he before or after?

All of these points are fair and true, and I did consider them when I wrote that piece. However, I felt it was better to just go with the data which with regard to K% was significant enough rather than to cherry pick the opponents. However, I do agree that lessens the value of the K% stat a bit.
 
Where's Chico. Not sure about ace, too soon. But a good number 2, yeah.
 
And now that I have to think about it, with respect to the numbers posted above, Fister just has to be good vs the ALC. He does that and he'll be winning games.
 
I think he is a weak #2 or an excellent #3. A top 3 of JV, Scherzer and Fister is very solid.
 
Still too soon

Though I do wonder what his record would've looked like if Seattle wasn't terrible.
 
I don't know. He had 3.3 in Seattle and much better here. He's young but at this point I'm not sure he's a weak #2. I mean what do you expect from a number 2, lol. He's a solid 2, now.
 
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Mitch[/color]]I don't know. He had 3.3 in Seattle and much better here. He's young but at this point I'm not sure he's a weak #2. I mean what do you expect from a number 2, lol. He's a solid 2, now.
I'm talking about what I think he is overall...not what he has done so far with the Tigers. What he has done with the Tigers would qualify as a strong #1. What I think he will be is a weak #2 or excellent #3 based on his skills. Nothing wrong with being a weak #2 or excellent #3. I really like the way he pitches and I am ecstatic that the Tigers traded for him!
 
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Mitch[/color]]His skills IMO say solid 2.

Could be. He doesn't have over powering stuff and relies on painting the corners. I think that is difficult to maintain....but he has been doing it since he got here. Let's hope he continues!
 
Not so fast here you guys, let's wait until he wins 3 Cy Youngs to even think about calling him an Ace. Even then it's not a very big sample size, any pitcher can have a hot 3 year stretch, just ask Chica.
 
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