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Game 16: Vikings @ Lions Thread

grandy

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Minnesota Vikings (6-9) @ Detroit Lions (5-10)

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Injury Report
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Lions
OT Tyrell Crosby (ankle) - OUT
G Joe Dahl (back) - OUT
WR Kenny Golladay (hip) - OUT
LB Jamie Collins Sr. (neck) - Questionable
C Frank Ragnow (throat) - Questionable
QB Matthew Stafford (thumb/rib/ankle) - Questionable

Vikings
RB Dalvin Cook (not injury related) - OUT
DE Jalyn Holmes (groin) - OUT
DE Ifeadi Odenigbo (chest) - OUT
CB Cameron Dantzler (hamstring) - OUT
CB Chris Jones (groin) - OUT
LB Eric Kendricks (calf) - OUT
K Dan Bailey (back) - Questionable


Series History
Link
The Lions are 39-77-2 against the Vikings
Last Game: 11/8/2020, Vikings 34 Lions 20
Last Game in Detroit: 10/20/2019, Vikings 42 Lions 30
Last Win: 10/1/2017, Lions 14 Vikings 7
Last Win in Detroit: 11/24/2016, Lions 16 Vikings 13
Recent Games: The Vikings have won the last 6 meetings
 
Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Minnesota -4.2% (19th)
Detroit -18.1% (26th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Minnesota -9.2% (22nd)
Detroit -24.4% (30th)

Offense DVOA
Minnesota 6.8% (9th)
Detroit -2.1% (18th)

Defense DVOA
Minnesota 2.0% (18th)
Detroit 18.1% (32nd)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 2.1% (11th)
Minnesota -9.0% (31st)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Minnesota 5.5% (9th)
Detroit -5.3% (18th)

Pass Offense
Minnesota 19.1% (11th)
Detroit 13.4% (19th)

Rush Offense
Minnesota 1.5% (6th)
Detroit -17.5% (23rd)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Minnesota 3.7% (21st)
Detroit 21.9% (32nd)

Pass Defense
Minnesota 3.5% (13th)
Detroit 32.8% (32nd)

Rush Defense
Detroit 0.0% (26th)
Minnesota 0.2% (27th)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Minnesota 5.02 (1st)
Detroit 4.19 (19th)

Power Success
Detroit 62% (20th)
Minnesota 57% (27th)

Stuffed
Minnesota 14.3% (5th)
Detroit 18.0% (21st)

2nd Level Yards
Minnesota 1.46 (1st)
Detroit 1.05 (29th)

Open Field Yards
Minnesota 0.83 (12th)
Detroit 0.55 (23rd)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 7.3% (20th)
Minnesota 7.6% (24th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.91 (29th)
Minnesota 5.11 (32nd)

Power Success
Detroit 69% (21st)
Minnesota 74% (30th)

Stuffed
Detroit 12.3% (29th)
Minnesota 10.6% (31st)

2nd Level Yards
Minnesota 1.31 (21st)
Detroit 1.34 (23rd)

Open Field Yards
Minnesota 0.56 (8th)
Detroit 0.66 (13th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Minnesota 4.9% (27th)
Detroit 4.8% (28th)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Minnesota -2.00 (22nd)
Detroit -8.39 (30th)

Net Points/Drive
Minnesota -0.20 (19th)
Detroit -0.93 (30th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Minnesota 0.004 (17th)
Detroit -0.072 (30th)

Offense Yards/Drive
Minnesota 35.63 (15th)
Detroit 33.21 (22nd)

Offense Points/Drive
Minnesota 2.41 (13th)
Detroit 2.09 (20th)

Offense DSR
Minnesota 0.759 (8th)
Detroit 0.733 (18th)

Defense Yards/Drive
Minnesota 37.63 (25th)
Detroit 41.59 (32nd)

Defense Points/Drive
Minnesota 2.62 (27th)
Detroit 3.02 (32nd)

Defense DSR
Minnesota 0.755 (23rd)
Detroit 0.805 (32nd)
 
Minny knows how to tank. Detroit doesn't. 27-24 Detroit.
 
Not sure if someone has already done this here, but here's my rooting guide for today:

http://www.tankathon.com/nfl

3. Houston (4-11) vs Tennessee - Houston has a higher SoS currently and Tennessee will bring that up, tie goes to the Lions. Tennessee still needs to secure a playoff spot.

4. Atlanta (4-11) @ Tampa Bay - Similar situation to Houston, tie goes to the Lions. Tampa Bay are in the playoffs and can't win the division, the only thing on the line is the privilege to play the NFC East winner.

5. Cincinnati (4-10-1) vs Baltimore - Baltimore still needs to secure a playoff spot. Barring some funky scenario, no ties here, need a Lions loss and Cincy win.

6. Philadelphia (4-10-1) vs Washington - Philadelphia is eliminated but all the other NFC East teams still have a chance. Washington and Dallas are both sitting at 6-9 and NY at 5-10, all have garbage SoSes so any tie with Detroit would push Detroit back.

8. NY Giants (5-10) vs Dallas - See Philly vs Washington

9. Carolina (5-10) vs New Orleans - NO still has a chance at #1 seed. Carolina has a decent SoS, tie would likely go to Detroit

10. Denver (5-10) vs Las Vegas - Denver has the 2nd highest SoS, tie would go to Detroit. Las Vegas has nothing to play for.


Lions to lose
Texans to win
Falcons to win
Bengals to win
Eagles to win
Giants to win/tie


I think Detroit still has a chance at the #3 pick if everything above happens and possibly #13 if everything goes wrong.
 
Not sure if someone has already done this here, but here's my rooting guide for today:

http://www.tankathon.com/nfl

3. Houston (4-11) vs Tennessee - Houston has a higher SoS currently and Tennessee will bring that up, tie goes to the Lions. Tennessee still needs to secure a playoff spot.

4. Atlanta (4-11) @ Tampa Bay - Similar situation to Houston, tie goes to the Lions. Tampa Bay are in the playoffs and can't win the division, the only thing on the line is the privilege to play the NFC East winner.

5. Cincinnati (4-10-1) vs Baltimore - Baltimore still needs to secure a playoff spot. Barring some funky scenario, no ties here, need a Lions loss and Cincy win.

6. Philadelphia (4-10-1) vs Washington - Philadelphia is eliminated but all the other NFC East teams still have a chance. Washington and Dallas are both sitting at 6-9 and NY at 5-10, all have garbage SoSes so any tie with Detroit would push Detroit back.

8. NY Giants (5-10) vs Dallas - See Philly vs Washington

9. Carolina (5-10) vs New Orleans - NO still has a chance at #1 seed. Carolina has a decent SoS, tie would likely go to Detroit

10. Denver (5-10) vs Las Vegas - Denver has the 2nd highest SoS, tie would go to Detroit. Las Vegas has nothing to play for.


Lions to lose
Texans to win
Falcons to win
Bengals to win
Eagles to win
Giants to win/tie


I think Detroit still has a chance at the #3 pick if everything above happens and possibly #13 if everything goes wrong.
I heard Miami is already solidified at the 3 spot.
 
Imagine that, Golladay is out still. Dude is a part time player, hope we let him walk
 
Trey Flowers still out? Thought it was a minor injury that would only keep him out a few weeks. Guy missed 3/4 of the season
 
Imagine that, Golladay is out still. Dude is a part time player, hope we let him walk

A smart GM will let him walk after a low-ball offer. They would also try and get as many high picks for Stafford as they can.
 
A smart GM will let him walk after a low-ball offer. They would also try and get as many high picks for Stafford as they can.

A smart GM would franchise and trade him as long as they can get more than a 3rd.....which would be their comp pick for letting him walk.
 
What a clownshow franchise to allow Stafford to play today. I almost hope they win
 
A smart GM would franchise and trade him as long as they can get more than a 3rd.....which would be their comp pick for letting him walk.

Id offer him a year deal worth 12/yr and see if he bites. Franchise and trade would be a good 2nd option.
 
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