Game 8: Lions @ Packers *Monday Night* Thread

[grandy]

Detroit Lions (3-4) @ Green Bay Packers (4-3)

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Injury Report
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Lions
WR Kenny Golladay (hamstring) - No practice
T Greg Robinson (ankle) - No practice
S Don Carey (knee) - Limited practice
DE Ezekiel Ansah (knee) - Limited practice
RB Dwayne Washington (concussion) - Full practice
T Emmett Cleary (ankle) - Full practice
LB Paul Worrilow (knee) - Full practice

Packers
S Kentrell Brice (ankle) - Placed on IR
LS Taybor Pepper (foot) - Placed on IR
TE Martellus Bennett (shoulder) - No practice
LB Ahmad Brooks (back) - No practice
DT Quinton Dial (chest) - No practice
LB Joe Thomas (ankle) - No practice
G Lane Taylor (ankle) - Limited practice
S Morgan Burnett (hamstring) - Full practice
LB Nick Perry (hand) - Full practice
CB Damarious Randall (hamstring) - Full practice
T David Bakhtiari (hamstring) - Full practice
RB Ty Montgomery (ribs/wrist) - Full practice


Series History
Link
The Lions are 68-98-7 against the Packers
Last Game: 1/1/2017, Packers 31 Lions 24
Last Win: 11/15/2015, Lions 18 Packers 16
Recent Games: The Packers have won the last 3 games

 

[grandy]

Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Detroit 11.5% (13th)
Green Bay 3.5% (17th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Detroit 11.2% (13th)
Green Bay 3.3% (17th)

Offense DVOA
Green Bay 4.1% (15th)
Detroit -7.6% (22nd)

Defense DVOA
Detroit -10.4% (7th)
Green Bay 2.2% (19th)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 8.7% (1st)
Green Bay 1.5% (14th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Green Bay 3.9% (15th)
Detroit -7.7% (22nd)

Pass Offense
Green Bay 7.1% (19th)
Detroit 4.2% (21st)

Rush Offense
Green Bay 11.0% (3rd)
Detroit -22.5% (30th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Detroit -10.2% (7th)
Green Bay 2.1% (19th)

Pass Defense
Detroit -2.5% (8th)
Green Bay 10.3% (18th)

Rush Defense
Detroit -20.3% (5th)
Green Bay -5.9% (21st)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Green Bay 4.70 (4th)
Detroit 3.04 (32nd)

Power Success
Green Bay 67% (10th)
Detroit 50% (26th)

Stuffed
Green Bay 16% (3rd)
Detroit 30% (32nd)

2nd Level Yards
Green Bay 1.10 (15th)
Detroit 0.92 (29th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.66 (17th)
Green Bay 0.57 (20th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Green Bay 8.3% (24th)
Detroit 8.4% (26th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Green Bay 3.95 (14th)
Detroit 4.20 (21st)

Power Success
Detroit 54% (9th)
Green Bay 65% (21st)

Stuffed
Green Bay 21% (14th)
Detroit 16% (30th)

2nd Level Yards
Detroit 1.08 (15th)
Green Bay 1.22 (25th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.49 (8th)
Green Bay 0.73 (19th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Green Bay 6.7% (16th)
Detroit 6.2% (19th)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Detroit -1.40 (20th)
Green Bay -3.24 (26th)

Net Points/Drive
Green Bay 0.18 (13th)
Detroit 0.03 (16th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Green Bay 0.011 (13th)
Detroit -0.007 (19th)

Offense Yards/Drive
Green Bay 30.89 (16th)
Detroit 26.98 (22nd)

Offense Points/Drive
Green Bay 2.24 (7th)
Detroit 1.70 (21st)

Offense DSR
Green Bay 0.735 (3rd)
Detroit 0.648 (23rd)

Defense Yards/Drive
Detroit 28.38 (14th)
Green Bay 34.12 (27th)

Defense Points/Drive
Detroit 1.67 (11th)
Green Bay 2.06 (25th)

Defense DSR
Detroit 0.655 (10th)
Green Bay 0.724 (27th)

 

[Tonyballs2]

Switched to day shift to watch this debacle. Yay?

 

[tomdalton22]

Switched to day shift to watch this debacle. Yay?

I think you made the right call. I think the Lions win by 10. GB sucks without AR. Brett Hundley is TERRIBLE!

 

[Tonyballs2]

I think you made the right call. I think the Lions win by 10. GB sucks without AR. Brett Hundley is TERRIBLE!

I hope so. He has looked bad. Pressure him and he cowers. Where's that pressure coming from?

 

[tigermud]

The Lions leading rusher has 369 yards through 7 games, that is pathetic.

GB Weather forecast for Monday night currently 29 light winds 20% chance of rain

 

[Tonyballs2]

The Lions leading rusher has 369 yards through 7 games, that is pathetic.

GB Weather forecast for Monday night currently 29 light winds 20% chance of rain

They need to unload picks and go get Barkley

 

[mhughes0021]

They need to unload picks and go get Barkley

I personally see Barkley as a top 15 pick which is in our wheelhouse if we keep playing like shit. He probably ends up going top 10 though... someone will reach for him. Still to many needs to trade up. stay put and Get your #1 wr if you miss on Barkley. Or pass rushing De. Or corner. Or safety. Or guard. Or center. Or or or or or or or. Ya our team is shit.

 

[tomdalton22]

I personally see Barkley as a top 15 pick which is in our wheelhouse if we keep playing like shit. He probably ends up going top 10 though... someone will reach for him. Still to many needs to trade up. stay put and Get your #1 wr if you miss on Barkley. Or pass rushing De. Or corner. Or safety. Or guard. Or center. Or or or or or or or. Ya our team is shit.

I think the Lions still need more help up front...it looks like on both sides of the ball

 

[grandy]

While I wouldn't mind seeing them draft more linemen early, it's sad that they've actually committed to it and the lines still aren't that good. Since 2010, 6 out of 8 1st round picks have been spent on OL or DL, the only exceptions being Ebron and Davis.

 

[mhughes0021]

While I wouldn't mind seeing them draft more linemen early, it's sad that they've actually committed to it and the lines still aren't that good. Since 2010, 6 out of 8 1st round picks have been spent on OL or DL, the only exceptions being Ebron and Davis.

Sadly most of them are gone already. Only Decker and ansah starting? Fucking terrible...

 

[manchild98]

Season starts Monday...time to run the table.

 

[LKP]

Sadly most of them are gone already. Only Decker and ansah starting? Fucking terrible...

Wagner over Reiff. Reiff did well here. Worth the pick


Suh played well then got greedy

Fairley didn't have the heart for the game

Laken bad pick but guard was top need in 2015 draft

Decker good. Ansah good

 

[tomdalton22]

Wagner over Reiff. Reiff did well here. Worth the pick


Suh played well then got greedy

Fairley didn't have the heart for the game

Laken bad pick but guard was top need in 2015 draft

Decker good. Ansah good

like he said...only 2

 

[grandy]

I'll be honest, I'm glad they're done with prime time after this week for a while (outside of T-day).

 

[LKP]

like he said...only 2

The players played well. Upgraded over reiff and warford and laken. Not sad at all. Great really

 

[tomdalton22]

The players played well. Upgraded over reiff and warford and laken. Not sad at all. Great really

33% success rate for first round picks is great?

 

[mhughes0021]

33% success rate for first round picks is great?

Greatly shitty. Also he's including ansah in his great list. One of the shittiest des in the league this year. I'd trade him for linehan and schwartz.

 

[kdp1980]

Must win. Lions need to nut up and take this division, no more conservative offense, go for broke

 

[turok]

I think that the Lions need to win the div title or else. Too many WC contenders and 3 of potentially 6 who currently have .500 records or better have tiebreaker wins vs them.