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Glad I'm Not the Only One Out There

Are you sure LKP, that your not the author?
 
Essentially says exactly what most people have been saying, Coaching and QB play held us back last year.

Potential is there for it to be fixed, but that all it is potential. The coaching staff recognizes Staffords accuracy needs to improve, which is a start. Hopefully they can make him a more accurate QB.

Still it's just more hope. Let's see it materialize
 
I'm probably the only one who didn't know that the Lions hired a coach named Jim Bob Cooter.

Someone tell me that is a joke.
 
I'm probably the only one who didn't know that the Lions hired a coach named Jim Bob Cooter.

Someone tell me that is a joke.

Nope. It sounds like he will fit right in with the "Lion's way"

Former Tennessee Volunteers backup quarterback Jim Bob Cooter spent the 2013 season as an offensive assistant for the Denver Broncos, worked as offensive quality control the previous year for the Kansas City Chiefs, and spent the previous three years with the Indianapolis Colts as an offensive assistant.

Cooter?s tenure with the Colts overlapped that of new Lions head coach Jim Caldwell, who was head coach of Indianapolis in 2009, 2010 and 2011.

Cooter was arrested in 2006 for DUI, but he was arrested again for a more serious ? and bizarre ? offense in 2009. According to WVLT in Knoxville, Tenn., Cooter was charged with aggravated burglary after allegedly getting into bed with a woman after climbing into the window of her apartment and stripping down to his underwear. The woman called the police, who arrested Cooter, and he was released on a $10,000 bond the next day.
 
Nope. It sounds like he will fit right in with the "Lion's way"

Former Tennessee Volunteers backup quarterback Jim Bob Cooter spent the 2013 season as an offensive assistant for the Denver Broncos, worked as offensive quality control the previous year for the Kansas City Chiefs, and spent the previous three years with the Indianapolis Colts as an offensive assistant.

Cooter?s tenure with the Colts overlapped that of new Lions head coach Jim Caldwell, who was head coach of Indianapolis in 2009, 2010 and 2011.

Cooter was arrested in 2006 for DUI, but he was arrested again for a more serious ? and bizarre ? offense in 2009. According to WVLT in Knoxville, Tenn., Cooter was charged with aggravated burglary after allegedly getting into bed with a woman after climbing into the window of her apartment and stripping down to his underwear. The woman called the police, who arrested Cooter, and he was released on a $10,000 bond the next day.

Nice. I can see the call to the police. "Yes officer, Jim Bob has crawled into my bed and tried to touch my Cooter.
 
By Anthony Kuehn

Detroit Free Press Special Writer

Isn't "Special" the P.C. way of saying retarded?

In the news world, it means it's written by a regular contributor, usually of some note or prominence, who does not actually work for the paper it's published in.

Kinda cool to have a guy who works for a newspaper on the board every so often, ain't it?

In any event, the author is directly on point, and does mirror a lot of what LKP says. There is a lot of promise and potential in Detroit at this point, and very few reasons to feel as negative as the fans are voicing.

I have found it odd in recent week how many times I have heard Caldwell bashed. I've seen folks on this board mention that he went to the SuperBowl only because of Peyton Manning... which I find really odd since Manning has been in the NFL for 15 years, been to three SuperBowls, and won only one of them.

I don't think very many fans would have been this sour on Tony Dungy, who had also won two SuperBowls, only one as a coach, and with Peyton Manning at QB.

Yet somehow we translate Caldwell winning only with Peyton as a knock on him. We forget he was the offensive coordinator when Baltimore won a SuperBowl, and we forget that he coached the Colts into the SuperBowl when they were beaten by the Saints.

Bear in mind, I am not making an argument for or against Caldwell here, I just don't understand the double standard our fans seem to have. There were rumors of Dungy coming to Detroit, and people were all excited. But a coach who has had more success lands here, and we tear him down because of who his QB was... the same QB that Tony had.

Plus, 15 years in the league and one title... it's not like Peyton Manning is automagially bringing trophies to coaches.

Sorry for the long-ish rant on the coaching, it seemed to tie into the discussion somewhat.

Point is, we finally have a lot of reasons to be looking up, and a lot of us are more down than ever. It just doesn't make sense.
 
awwww the free press has a "special" homer just like we do! I too am glad youre not the only one lkp...special people need jobs too.
 
Just more talk...talk, talk talk...all offseason...doesn't mean shit until it turns into success.

11 wins since the 2011 playoff season is pitiful.

Put up or shut up.
 
In the news world, it means it's written by a regular contributor, usually of some note or prominence, who does not actually work for the paper it's published in.

Kinda cool to have a guy who works for a newspaper on the board every so often, ain't it?

In any event, the author is directly on point, and does mirror a lot of what LKP says. There is a lot of promise and potential in Detroit at this point, and very few reasons to feel as negative as the fans are voicing.

I have found it odd in recent week how many times I have heard Caldwell bashed. I've seen folks on this board mention that he went to the SuperBowl only because of Peyton Manning... which I find really odd since Manning has been in the NFL for 15 years, been to three SuperBowls, and won only one of them.

I don't think very many fans would have been this sour on Tony Dungy, who had also won two SuperBowls, only one as a coach, and with Peyton Manning at QB.

Yet somehow we translate Caldwell winning only with Peyton as a knock on him. We forget he was the offensive coordinator when Baltimore won a SuperBowl, and we forget that he coached the Colts into the SuperBowl when they were beaten by the Saints.

Bear in mind, I am not making an argument for or against Caldwell here, I just don't understand the double standard our fans seem to have. There were rumors of Dungy coming to Detroit, and people were all excited. But a coach who has had more success lands here, and we tear him down because of who his QB was... the same QB that Tony had.

Plus, 15 years in the league and one title... it's not like Peyton Manning is automagially bringing trophies to coaches.

Sorry for the long-ish rant on the coaching, it seemed to tie into the discussion somewhat.

Point is, we finally have a lot of reasons to be looking up, and a lot of us are more down than ever. It just doesn't make sense.

I have no doubt that Caldwell will be an improvement over Gym Shorts. However, it is still the Lions who haven't done anything over the past 60 years except win one playoff game. That kind of habitual failure is hard to get out of our memories. They teased us in 2011 only to go back to the same old Lions the very next year. Until they win a playoff game I am going believe that they will continue to be a failure.
 
I have no doubt that Caldwell will be an improvement over Gym Shorts. However, it is still the Lions who haven't done anything over the past 60 years except win one playoff game. That kind of habitual failure is hard to get out of our memories. They teased us in 2011 only to go back to the same old Lions the very next year. Until they win a playoff game I am going believe that they will continue to be a failure.

And while I certainly understand that...

New coach. New owner. Bill Jr. with vastly more direct control over the team... and he wants a winner badly.

I think there is reason to think the old attitude may have died with the old man.

Let's be real, if Bill Jr. hadn't stepped in and done it himself, Bill Sr. would have kept Millen another 10 years. The man was amazingly loyal to his employees, even when it was clear he needed to NOT be loyal.

Bill Jr. couldn't take it any more, and fired him... THEN told his dad. He usurped power and did what needed to be done.

I don't believe he's going to be at all passive in the decision process like his father was, though it does sound like he wants to be very hands off and let the football guys run a football team... a position I greatly respect.

Last thing this team needs is to become a bigger laughing stock with a Jerry Jones/ Al Davis/ Daniel Snyder type owner who thinks he is a football genius.

Let Bill pull the trigger when it comes time to make changes, and let the football guys be football guys.
 
In the news world, it means it's written by a regular contributor, usually of some note or prominence, who does not actually work for the paper it's published in.

Kinda cool to have a guy who works for a newspaper on the board every so often, ain't it?

In any event, the author is directly on point, and does mirror a lot of what LKP says. There is a lot of promise and potential in Detroit at this point, and very few reasons to feel as negative as the fans are voicing.

I have found it odd in recent week how many times I have heard Caldwell bashed. I've seen folks on this board mention that he went to the SuperBowl only because of Peyton Manning... which I find really odd since Manning has been in the NFL for 15 years, been to three SuperBowls, and won only one of them.

I don't think very many fans would have been this sour on Tony Dungy, who had also won two SuperBowls, only one as a coach, and with Peyton Manning at QB.

Yet somehow we translate Caldwell winning only with Peyton as a knock on him. We forget he was the offensive coordinator when Baltimore won a SuperBowl, and we forget that he coached the Colts into the SuperBowl when they were beaten by the Saints.

Bear in mind, I am not making an argument for or against Caldwell here, I just don't understand the double standard our fans seem to have. There were rumors of Dungy coming to Detroit, and people were all excited. But a coach who has had more success lands here, and we tear him down because of who his QB was... the same QB that Tony had.

Plus, 15 years in the league and one title... it's not like Peyton Manning is automagially bringing trophies to coaches.

Sorry for the long-ish rant on the coaching, it seemed to tie into the discussion somewhat.

Point is, we finally have a lot of reasons to be looking up, and a lot of us are more down than ever. It just doesn't make sense.

when fans keep talking about potential all the time....and we never live up to that potential...its time we admit we overexaggerated that potential and need to look at ways to improve the roster. Not keep bringing the same guys back and expect different results. The only promise I see is the young talent we got in last years draft. You need cheap talent from drafts to win in this league now. Our team is based on mega contracts ...which 2 of 3 of them underperform based on how much they make.
 
Who gives a fk if we win 4 games or 14 let's get some playoff wins. If they don't it's a failed season, one of many.
 
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