LOL at JEB Bush's Foreign Policy team

[Michchamp]

It's no wonder I'm hearing more and more BS about how the 2003 Invasion of Iraq was an "innocent mistake" based on "bad intel"... "they" are trying to rehabilitate their image, and if the press lets them get away with it a second time... sick! Look at the list of names.

It's not even hard to refute; just make a timeline and match statements from Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush, Rice to it... they intentionally lied and mislead the public to launch an invasion of Iraq. There's no gray area here.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Who doctored the yellowcake documents!?

Don't forget there was a 4 year gap before 2002 with no UN inspections. There was bad intel.

 

[Monster]

Sadly, if a repub is elected, I would prefer Jeb Bush. As bad as the bush family is, the rest of the "candidates" are very scary. I don't scare easily, but it terrifies me what would happen if a guy like huckabee, santorum, or walker were elected.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Sadly, if a repub is elected, I would prefer Jeb Bush. As bad as the bush family is, the rest of the "candidates" are very scary. I don't scare easily, but it terrifies me what would happen if a guy like huckabee, santorum, or walker were elected.

I'm not really paying attention yet, but I have a similar general expectation about the candidates we'll see. Our system is broken.

 

[Gulo Blue]

...but that venn diagram makes a strong case against Jeb. That team does not represent change.

With the advice of 20 people from past administrations, I'm here to say "I am my own man."

 

[KAWDUP]

Have to admit that the electability of the candidates being mentioned so far leaves a little to be desired. Jeb may be the best of the lot - maybe Rubio if he can repair his rep concerning immigration. Long way to go.

 

[Monster]

Have to admit that the electability of the candidates being mentioned so far leaves a little to be desired. Jeb may be the best of the lot - maybe Rubio if he can repair his rep concerning immigration. Long way to go.

Rubio seems like a guy who would be a puppet in office. He'd pick a vp with a ton of political experience and we'd have bush/cheney all over again. Jeb may be W's brother, but he doesn't seem like that type of guy. Much better option than what's out there.

 

[Michchamp]

Have to admit that the electability of the candidates being mentioned so far leaves a little to be desired. Jeb may be the best of the lot - maybe Rubio if he can repair his rep concerning immigration. Long way to go.

Leaves much to be desired.

On the Left, things seem fairly pre-determined... HRC's presidential campaign has been doing the legwork to secure the nomination for years, and attempts to draft a true liberal to run against her, or at least force her left have seemed to fall flat. I wish the Democrats would run someone I could bring myself to vote for.

The only question is what knucklehead the GOP will put forward to "run" against her. Rubio, Cruz, and Rand Paul can't seem to pass the "just don't completely embarass yourself every goddamn time you open your mouth" qualification.

Initially I too thought Jebber was the "more reasonable" Bush Brother (though that's not saying much). But in his dealings with the Cuban community in FL, he appears to have even more skeletons than W. Bush did with his Texas oil buddies, not to mention the whole "guilt by association" thing...

the knives have already come out for Big Fat Chris Crispie Creme. I don't seem him suriving all the inevitable scandal-mongering that will beset his campaign.

Scott Walker seems to be picking a fight that will make him popular with the anti-intellectual/anti-education mouthbreathers. The timing doesn't really make sense otherwise.

Paul Ryan is another, but I don't think he really "tested well" during his stint as Romney's running mate.

Not sure how many of the "also rans" from 2012 would fair better this time around.

 

[hailhail]

I'm not really paying attention yet, but I have a similar general expectation about the candidates we'll see. Our system is broken.

It's looking more and more like it'll be Hilary v. Jeb in 2016. And I only know a handful of people in the world who are happy about that fact.

 

[Gulo Blue]

It's looking more and more like it'll be Hilary v. Jeb in 2016. And I only know a handful of people in the world who are happy about that fact.

We should go with Hilary, then Jeb, then Chelsea, then one of the Bush daughters...

Forget the two party system, we'll run a two family system.

 

[Thumb]

I think Josiah Bartlet should run.

 

[Michchamp]

We should go with Hilary, then Jeb, then Chelsea, then one of the Bush daughters...

Forget the two party system, we'll run a two family system.

people will base their decision on reasons like this: "Derrr I could see myself havin' a beer with Jenna Bush Hager, but not Chelsea Clinton. She's way too stuck up for me."

While every serious challenger from either party is derided by the DC press (which derision will be repeated verbatim by voters) as "too boring" or "not a 'big picture' person."

unrelated note: Barbara ended up the better looking of the two Bush twins. Jenna looks like her father now, but with long hair. Can you imagine being married to the female version of George W. Bush? Yikes.

 

[Spartanmack]

unrelated note: Barbara ended up the better looking of the two Bush twins. Jenna looks like her father now, but with long hair. Can you imagine being married to the female version of George W. Bush? Yikes.

sub-optimal but a guy could do worse...

 

[Michchamp]

yeah, thanks.

I didn't even really want to think about that one...