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Minimum wage in MI up to $9.25

Gulo Blue

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http://time.com/121917/michigans-governor-snyder-signs-bill-raising-minimum-wage/

Interesting. I actually think it makes a lot of sense for minimum wage to vary from state-to-state. I also like the idea of certain cities having their own minimum wage. Minimum wage earners are more heavily impacted by local costs of living so it just makes sense for minimum wages to reflect local costs of living. No need for minimum wage in a small rural town to be the same as in San Francisco. Higher minimum wage in the north, lower in the south.
 
If you're going to have a minimum wage, it should definitely vary from region to region...
 
If you're going to have a minimum wage, it should definitely vary from region to region...

Yeah. That's a fair qualifier. IF there's going to be a minimum wage, it should vary. I think there should be some set of regulations or taxes or incentives or something that keeps us from the current scenario where WalMart "employs" millions that still qualify for public assistance. You'd think a minimum wage could do that, but it isn't. I'd be open to a different approach...not sure what it should look like though. If people couldn't get public assistance and work at WalMart, we'd quickly discover that WalMart hasn't been paying the full market rate of labor, but if you put up some barrier, you create a disincentive for people to work. Not an easy problem.
 
it shouldn't vary from region to region; there should be an absolute minimum floor ($9.25? $10?), and above that it should vary based on the size & revenue of the employer. keep employers from moving packing up and moving on a whim like that, and avoiding the incentive for states to race to the bottom.
 
it shouldn't vary from region to region; there should be an absolute minimum floor ($9.25? $10?), and above that it should vary based on the size & revenue of the employer. keep employers from moving packing up and moving on a whim like that, and avoiding the incentive for states to race to the bottom.

Higher end jobs with the government or national companies vary salaries with local cost of living rates. I think it's more important to take those costs into consideration the lower you get on the payscale.
 
It should clearly vary based on cost. The idea that one company should pay more for the same skills as another in the same area is asinine - the mom-and-pops would get crushed because they would end up paying the same wages just to get competent workers. Plus this idea that every job should pay enough to support some kind of minimum standard of living is absurd. It would destroy teen employment and low skill employment in general.
 
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It should clearly vary based on cost. The idea that one company should pay more for the same skills as another in the same area is asinine - the mom-and-pops would get crushed because they would end up paying the same wages just to get competent workers. Plus this idea that every job should pay enough to support some kind of minimum standard of living is absurd. It would destroy teen employment and low skill employment in general.

I disagree. If I want someone to flip burgers, that will cost a certain amount. If I want them to flip burgers on the moon, I'm going to have to pay more.

edit: I read that wrong the first time.

You said "same area". We're in total agreement. What's wrong with my reading comprehension?
 
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We should be giving tax incentives to businesses for creating more jobs, paying their employees higher wages, and giving health benefits. I don't see the dems or repubs doing any of those things. It's very disappointing.

Republicans' quick fix is lowering taxes. Democrats' quick fix is raising the minimum wage. Neither of those things, by themselves, will accomplish what this country truly needs. Giving tax cuts for the sake of tax cuts does nothing but put more money in employers' hands. But, giving them incentives actually helps them give higher wages and benefits and encourages growth. Blindly raising the minimum wage only puts added stress on small business and tells big business that it's cheaper to give their jobs to other countries where there is no minimum wage.
 
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