NFL trying to make a RB leading with helmet a penalty

[kdp80]

Beyond ridiculous

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[Mitchrapp]

I read about it a few days ago, dumbest shit ever.

 

[schles192]

I think they are just bringing it up for discussion, I don't see that one passing just yet. With replay and all the cameras the tuck rule should change.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

I might convert to hockey if shit like this happens

 

[brewer229]

While I don't agree with it, I'm not surprised. Not sure why they should allow an offensive player to do something a defensive can't do. Seems like the risk for concussion or injury (both low risk) would be the same regardless of which one is lowering their head.

 

[cheeno]

When you have on average 250 pound world class athletes running at each other in suits of armor somebody getting hurt real bad. Somebody.

 

[manchild98]

While I don't agree with it, I'm not surprised. Not sure why they should allow an offensive player to do something a defensive can't do. Seems like the risk for concussion or injury (both low risk) would be the same regardless of which one is lowering their head.

Which I don't get why an offensive player is allowed to shove his arm into a defensive players facemask and it's legal. That rule change I would support. But not letting a running back lower his head seems impossible to get rid of.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Its going to be difficult, every RB is taught to lower their head.

 

[cheeno]

I remember when the rules committee was so stubborn it took like a decade to adopt the two point conversion.

 

[manchild98]

Its going to be difficult, every RB is taught to lower their head.

You'd have to start teaching all 5 year olds now and then instituting this rule in the year 2033.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I remember when the rules committee was so stubborn it took like a decade to adopt the two point conversion.

Why is that stubborn? If had my choice I'd remove it..2 point conversions suck.

 

[cheeno]

Why is that stubborn? If had my choice I'd remove it..2 point conversions suck.

The point was not whether you like it or not, just that they took game altering rules so seriously any change to the game was carefully considered. Take replay for example remember the hot debate over that? Now there are like 15 replays a game.
Each year there are about three game altering rules or rule changes and then more game altering rules to fix the fuck ups caused by the unanticipated consequences caused by the original new rule or rule change (ie Jim Schwartz rule). Now anything can be sacrificed in the name of saftey for a fundamentally unsafe game, just take some fucking care with the game of football, where we don't need a former head of refereeing to come in and decipher and interpret the rules like some high court.

 

[inkfreq]

The bad part is, this doesn't lead to player safety. This is going to lead to more injuries among running backs.

What this rule breaks down to is that if a runner drops his head, it's a penalty. Dropping the head is the first mechanical motion to tucking the body to brace for a hit. The body instinctively begins to compact, becoming more like a ball, to absorb the damage.

In order for a runner to avoid dropping his head to begin a tuck, they must force their neck to remain upright, which prevents the rest of the body from compacting properly. It also exposes the neck to violent snapping motion at the point of impact.

The NFL should not in any way consider this rule change, unless they want to see more severe neck and spine injuries among runners. And while I understand the goal is to prevent more blunt force injuries involving the crown of the helmet against defenders, the actual odds of a career ending violent motion injury among running back becomes significantly greater than the odds of a blunt force trauma injury to a padded defender.

They are exposing the neck, the one portion of a football player's body that has nearly no protection, and is the most likely to take extreme damage from violent motion... whiplash.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The point was not whether you like it or not, just that they took game altering rules so seriously any change to the game was carefully considered. Take replay for example remember the hot debate over that? Now there are like 15 replays a game.
Each year there are about three game altering rules or rule changes and then more game altering rules to fix the fuck ups caused by the unanticipated consequences caused by the original new rule or rule change (ie Jim Schwartz rule). Now anything can be sacrificed in the name of saftey for a fundamentally unsafe game, just take some fucking care with the game of football, where we don't need a former head of refereeing to come in and decipher and interpret the rules like some high court.

Fine but you brought up 2-point conversions like "its about time, get with the program". Lol. I can't read your mind.

Also replay is a tough situation, even with replays the wrong calls are made sometimes. When replays first started, the refs at the time were quick on the whistle so a fumble happens but the ref blows whistle before anyone has a chance to recover - un-reviewable. The refs these days wait it out and aren't so trigger happy any more.

At first I didn't like the replay, still not a big fan outside when someone scores.

 

[cheeno]

Fine but you brought up 2-point conversions like "its about time, get with the program". Lol. I can't read your mind.

Also replay is a tough situation, even with replays the wrong calls are made sometimes. When replays first started, the refs at the time were quick on the whistle so a fumble happens but the ref blows whistle before anyone has a chance to recover - un-reviewable. The refs these days wait it out and aren't so trigger happy any more.

At first I didn't like the replay, still not a big fan outside when someone scores.

Replay sucks because the NFL is pure lawyer ball, there are no black and white rulings. For the love of god if everything is open to interpretation at least give me Markie Post and John Laroquette instead of that tool Mike Pereira.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Replay sucks because the NFL is pure lawyer ball, there are no black and white rulings. For the love of god if everything is open to interpretation at least give me Markie Post and John Laroquette instead of that tool Mike Pereira.

I hate that guy.

Yes, bring back Night Court.

 

[cheeno]

I hate that guy.

Yes, bring back Night Court.

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.

 

[thehippo73]

I heard this would be enforced outside the tackles. I don't have a problem with the rule. If someone uses their helmet as a weapon, it's a penalty.

Ask Jahvid if leading with your helmet is a good idea. Some rules are for your own protection.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I heard this would be enforced outside the tackles. I don't have a problem with the rule. If someone uses their helmet as a weapon, it's a penalty.

Ask Jahvid if leading with your helmet is a good idea. Some rules are for your own protection.

I get it but you're taking these guys out of their comfort zone. Can't just lead with the head since pee wee and suddenly stop on a dime..

 

[thehippo73]

I get it but you're taking these guys out of their comfort zone. Can't just lead with the head since pee wee and suddenly stop on a dime..

They made the defensive players do it. Why not the offensive players?