Teryl Austin

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Well, he's starting to make a believer out of me. I'm not sold yet, but this defense has played damned well the last two weeks with a lot of guys banged up or out completely.

Slay is really starting to develop. He was sticky on Cooper today like he was flypaper. 1 catch for four yards? That's what I want to see from our #1. The Raiders came into the game the #6 ranked passing offense in the NFL and did nothing all day. It was good.

Still not getting a lot of pressure up front, but a lot of guys missing from the rotation. I'm not even sure how we have four men left up there.

LBs are playing good ball with Levy out. Gives me confidence there for next season.

Like I said, I'm not sold on Austin yet, but he's growing on me these last two weeks. Eagles can be explosive on a good day, but the next few weeks will be a better test of what he can put together.

 

[Mitchrapp]

New GM gets new HC who most likely gets new DC. So he might be gone as well.

 

[mhughes0021]

New GM gets new HC who most likely gets new DC. So he might be gone as well.

Were not getting a coach that has an entire crew and installs his people everywhere. We will get another caldwell that pieces shit from wherever he can find it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Were not getting a coach that has an entire crew and installs his people everywhere. We will get another caldwell that pieces shit from wherever he can find it.

Based on history, probably. But I'm trying to have hope.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I've said it before and I will say it again in a thread dedicated to him.......I think Austin should be our next head coach

He hasn't been perfect this year......but he lost TWO All Pro players and a couple vets that were relied on......Mathis, Tulloch and Ihedigbo......have finally let father time catch them.

He is still putting a good product on the field every week.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I've said it before and I will say it again in a thread dedicated to him.......I think Austin should be our next head coach

He hasn't been perfect this year......but he lost TWO All Pro players and a couple vets that were relied on......Mathis, Tulloch and Ihedigbo......have finally let father time catch them.

He is still putting a good product on the field every week.

I just don't want someone who has 26 games as a DC, and that's it. Not that a more seasoned guy will be the answer but 26 games as a coordinator is a pretty weak resume.

And as far "He is still putting a good product on the field every week." is as false as you can get. Arizona, KC, SD, Chicago, Minnesota ..

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I just don't want someone who has 26 games as a DC, and that's it. Not that a more seasoned guy will be the answer but 26 games as a coordinator is a pretty weak resume.

And as far "He is still putting a good product on the field every week." is as false as you can get. Arizona, KC, SD, Chicago, Minnesota ..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tomlin

Here is Mike Tomlins resume......he had exactly one year as a Cordinator and then everything before that was as a db coach. Seems to have worked out pretty well for Pittsburgh.

My point is that you cannot tell how good, or bad, he would be based on his previous resume.

 

[Mitchrapp]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tomlin

Here is Mike Tomlins resume......he had exactly one year as a Cordinator and then everything before that was as a db coach. Seems to have worked out pretty well for Pittsburgh.

My point is that you cannot tell how good, or bad, he would be based on his previous resume.

It happens, and if Mike Thomin had a year where his defense was one of the worst in the league before he became HC then it might make sense. But it wasn't. And if Austin was a HC this year, maybe that would make sense.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

It happens, and if Mike Thomin had a year where his defense was one of the worst in the league before he became HC then it might make sense. But it wasn't. And if Austin was a HC this year, maybe that would make sense.

The 2006 Vikings finished 6-10 and their defense was 14th overall. Hardly a sparkling resume. He is now considered one of the three or four best head coaches in the NFL.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The 2006 Vikings finished 6-10 and their defense was 14th overall. Hardly a sparkling resume. He is now considered one of the three or four best head coaches in the NFL.

14th or deadlast for most of the year now up to to 29th. That's a big difference.

 

[LKP]

20 turnovers in first 8 games screwed the defense

1 turnover in 2 games (in GB red zone) and we shut down Rodgers and Carr. Seattle game Lions held them to 13 with 0 turnovers too.

 

[Mitchrapp]

20 turnovers in first 8 games screwed the defense

1 turnover in 2 games (in GB red zone) and we shut down Rodgers and Carr. Seattle game Lions held them to 13 with 0 turnovers too.

And all them resulted in scores? And all of them the opposing team only had to go 20-30 yards? I'm pretty sure the Calvin fumble at the goaline didn't effect the defense.

 

[LKP]

Lots of short fields and changes. 20 turnovers is terrible in 8 games. That's a 40 pace. It screwed a good defense

Plus the whole Levy and Ngata and Walker injuries too. Detroit regrouped with a good secondary in the bye and Ngata playing well as is run defense.

 

[tonyballs]

Where the hell was this defense for the first 8 games??

 

[Mitchrapp]

Where the hell was this defense for the first 8 games??

No doubt. We don't score much but better defense and we could be a .500 team.

 

[sggatecl]

Where the hell was this defense for the first 8 games??

I still think it just took Austin time to adjust things properly after losing so much all at once. Maintaining a top 5 defense while losing Suh, Fairley, and Levy all at once is a lot to ask of a 2nd year defensive coordinator. It sucks that he's probably gone, I think he'll be successful at his next job.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

No doubt. We don't score much but better defense and we could be a .500 team.

I disagree. Look at it on a game by game basis.....I agree the D cost us the San Diego game......but there isn't another game we played that you could say the D cost us the win.

I think we'd be 4-6 with a "better defense".

On the flip side.....I think we'd be 5-5 or 6-4 with a better offense.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I disagree. Look at it on a game by game basis.....I agree the D cost us the San Diego game......but there isn't another game we played that you could say the D cost us the win.

I think we'd be 4-6 with a "better defense".

On the flip side.....I think we'd be 5-5 or 6-4 with a better offense.

The offense isn't aggressive enough. No TD passes in 2 games is telling. We can't ever just win comfortably. Our wins by 3, 2 and 5. As far as the D costing us the game, point taken but there were still games we didn't have a chance because they played so poorly.

In the ends it's hard for me to really be an Austin supporter when he gave up 40+ to Arizona and KC. 2nd Minnesota, they scored almost every drive. Chicago? I don't agree with SGG that it took time to figured it out with newer players. Good DC get teams better prepared not steamrolled.

 

[LKP]

Where the hell was this defense for the first 8 games??

Getting screwed by the 20 turnovers we allowed.

3 atrocious run defense games out of 10 (at Min, Arizona, at KC)

Couple big plays allowed (Denver two big catches, John Brown big catch Stefon Diggs insane dive catch, lucky flip to Peterson at Minnesota) and then the dink and dunk to Keenan Allen (who did that to other teams too). Wilson had a few crazy scrambles for their lone TD drive.

KC and Arizona picked us apart but lots of turnovers in those 2 games that made it way worse.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Denver has almost as many TO's and one of the best defenses. There goes your theory.