The 3D printed gun is here

[redandguilty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=drPz6n6UXQY

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blo...uted.html?mbid=gnep&google_editors_picks=true

 

[redandguilty]

He calls his high capacity magazine, the "Feinstein Magazine"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tVwhmfV1bU&list=UUsKjElNP5r8fXVYdGxuGo6Q

 

[Thumb]

Taken from that second video: Gun control; the Dream is collapsing.

What dream was that?

 

[redandguilty]

Taken from that second video: Gun control; the Dream is collapsing.

What dream was that?

I think he's an anarchist, so the dream would be government I guess. Even an anarchist can design a plastic gun.

 

[Michchamp]

oh red... you and your printed guns.

 

[Michchamp]

“durrr there cain't be no gun control when I can jus print out mah gunz like this, huuurrrr duuurrrr."

dumb texan.

 

[redandguilty]

?durrr there cain't be no gun control when I can jus print out mah gunz like this, huuurrrr duuurrrr."

dumb texan.

But if they regulate the snot out of 3d printers, I will be disappointed.

 

[redandguilty]

oh red... you and your printed guns.

We were talking about this as a hypothetical in the nick of time. Just before it wasn't a hypothetical. I wonder how many times it fires. Its bulkiness makes me suspect the answer is once.

 

[Michchamp]

But if they regulate the snot out of 3d printers, I will be disappointed.

what is extra-stupid about this clown (and anyone who believes his argument that 3D printing guns make gun laws irrelevant) is that the unlawful manufacture of firearms is already a crime, just like it's illegal to copy money on a color printer or make false documents using one.

maybe if everyone was willing to go out and buy 3D printers and print guns, as some sort of idiotic protest against the entirely reasonable legal restraints on firearm ownership and possession, he'd have a point. then state & local governments, and the Feds might back down and say, "Okay, fine. Buy whatever you want, and carry it wherever you want. Good luck with that."

but that won't happen, because most people aren't extra stupid. Like him. And anyone who believes he has a good point. Whoever that may be.

 

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Actually when you think about it all these idiots that want the 3-D printed guns are somewhat Darwinian.

Let them have them and watch them all walking around with facial scars from polymer shrapnel when the fucking things blow up in their idiot faces. The ones who aren't killed instantly anyways.

 

[redandguilty]

what is extra-stupid about this clown (and anyone who believes his argument that 3D printing guns make gun laws irrelevant) is that the unlawful manufacture of firearms is already a crime, just like it's illegal to copy money on a color printer or make false documents using one.

maybe if everyone was willing to go out and buy 3D printers and print guns, as some sort of idiotic protest against the entirely reasonable legal restraints on firearm ownership and possession, he'd have a point. then state & local governments, and the Feds might back down and say, "Okay, fine. Buy whatever you want, and carry it wherever you want. Good luck with that."

but that won't happen, because most people aren't extra stupid. Like him. And anyone who believes he has a good point. Whoever that may be.

I agree that current laws are probably fine for now. It's not much of an issue until lots of people have 3D printers for other reasons. If everyone had a 3D printer sitting around, then anyone could make themselves a gun in about 24 hours. We'll probably see a 3D printed weapon crime at some point, but I really don't expect much trouble for a good long time. I think there's some risk because this enables an extreme loner to get a weapon without interacting with anyone. If 3D metal printing gets to be ubiquitous, then we'll have to reevaluate.

 

[redandguilty]

The US State Department asked him to take the files down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22478310

Doesn't sound like they have a solid legal reason yet.

The Office of Defense Trade Controls Compliance wrote to Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson demanding the designs be "removed from public access" until he could prove he had not broken laws governing shipping weapons overseas by putting the files online and letting people outside the US download them.

Also, the article notes that this guy got a license to make and sell this gun, but the ATF said anyone could make a gun for personal use, they just can't sell it. I'm confused.

They stick a non-functional 6 oz chuck of steel in the gun so they don't violate the Undetectable Firearms Act.

 

[redandguilty]

Actually when you think about it all these idiots that want the 3-D printed guns are somewhat Darwinian.

Let them have them and watch them all walking around with facial scars from polymer shrapnel when the fucking things blow up in their idiot faces. The ones who aren't killed instantly anyways.

...

The printed gun seems limited, for now, to certain calibers of ammunition. After the handgun round, Wilson switched out the Liberator?s barrel for a higher-charge 5.7?28 rifle cartridge. He and John retreated to a safe distance, and John pulled his yellow string again. This time the gun exploded, sending shards of white ABS plastic flying into the weeds and bringing the Liberator?s first field trial to an abrupt end.

 

[Michchamp]

The US State Department asked him to take the files down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22478310

Doesn't sound like they have a solid legal reason yet.



Also, the article notes that this guy got a license to make and sell this gun, but the ATF said anyone could make a gun for personal use, they just can't sell it. I'm confused.

their power to regulate firearms is not absolute; it stems from the commerce clause. basically once something crosses state lines, or potentially could, or affects interstate commerce, it comes within congress' const power under the commerce clause. so a lot of things are okay as long as they are for personal use only. it's called FREEDOM.

gun nuts in many states are trying to get laws passed that state the atf and federal laws have no authority on firearms manufactured and sold solely within state lines, but the supreme court has already rejected that line of reasoning in other cases and wil do so here.

 

[redandguilty]

http://www.techworld.com.au/article/462774/nsw_police_issues_warning_3d_printed_guns/

The NSW Police revealed that the force has created and tested two 3D-printed firearms.

The commissioner said that a Liberator pistol had experienced a catastrophic misfire during testing. The failure would have been capable of seriously injuring the person using the firearm, the police chief said.

 

[redandguilty]

The police spent $35 on materials to create a Liberator and used a $1700 desktop 3D printer. The only metal parts used in the pistol's construction where the firing pin, created with a nail, and a .380 ACP calibre pistol cartridge. The all-plastic body means that the pistol is hard for security forces to detect.

 

[Michchamp]

The police spent $35 on materials to create a Liberator and used a $1700 desktop 3D printer. The only metal parts used in the pistol's construction where the firing pin, created with a nail, and a .380 ACP calibre pistol cartridge. The all-plastic body means that the pistol is hard for security forces to detect.

well, sounds it may be hard to detect, but not very useful for the purpose it's intended for at this stage, due to its tendency to explode in your hand.

continues to be a non-story in my book.

sure is neat to discuss 3-D printers though.

can you make anything useful with them?

 

[redandguilty]

well, sounds it may be hard to detect, but not very useful for the purpose it's intended for at this stage, due to its tendency to explode in your hand.

continues to be a non-story in my book.

sure is neat to discuss 3-D printers though.

can you make anything useful with them?

U of M saved an infant by 3D printing some trachea splitnt. It was in the news yesterday.

 

[Michchamp]

U of M saved an infant by 3D printing some trachea splitnt. It was in the news yesterday.

yeah, I saw that.

has anyone printed a 3-D club, and used it to beat an assailant? that could be useful.

I wish I could print myself a 3-D flying car, and avoid traffic on the way home. sheesh.