Game 9: Browns @ Lions Thread

[LKP]

you are a moron

I know more than you ever will know about football

 

[turok]

The Lions have been a tease since '11, and the victims of bad officiating, obscure rules, ill-timed injuries, and esp stupid playcalling. But that all happens to every team, just to varying degrees. The best teams stay fortunately more healthy, get the calls more often in their favor, and have a good FO/coaching staff. Due to the fact that there are no "minor leagues" other than the practice squads, and needing to draft players from college teams, there is a certain amount of luck involved, esp in the top rounds. Football clubs with very good staffs can better identify and obtain gems in the lower rounds and shrewdly trade for more picks. The hard salary cap also obviates "parity" in the NFL. Screwing that up can hamstring a franchise for years.

 

[grandy]

There's a gross part of me that hopes this team loses, Minnesota cliches this thing early, and the organization can continue to get serious about starting over the right way and throw this coaching staff the hell out of town.

This team currently constructed doesn't have a snowball's chance to win a playoff game.

While I want this coaching staff out of here, I don't want to see them losing in the 2nd half in order to justify it. I hope the Lions make the playoffs, and if they lose in the 1st round, I hope the coaching staff is fired because of it. It would prove to me that Quinn/ownership are committed to winning, not just making the playoffs.

Making the playoffs 3 out of 5 years and never making it out of the 1st round should not be seen as success, any quality franchise should be unhappy with that performance.

I know it would result in a worse draft pick, but I'd rather see a team that failed in the playoffs over a team that failed to make the playoffs going into 2018, excited to start a new season with a new (and hopefully improved) coaching staff.

 

[LKP]

While I want this coaching staff out of here, I don't want to see them losing in the 2nd half in order to justify it. I hope the Lions make the playoffs, and if they lose in the 1st round, I hope the coaching staff is fired because of it. It would prove to me that Quinn/ownership are committed to winning, not just making the playoffs.

Making the playoffs 3 out of 5 years and never making it out of the 1st round should not be seen as success, any quality franchise should be unhappy with that performance.

I know it would result in a worse draft pick, but I'd rather see a team that failed in the playoffs over a team that failed to make the playoffs going into 2018, excited to start a new season with a new (and hopefully improved) coaching staff.

LOL I'm glad you want them to make the playoffs

Caldwell was extended. You know this right?

 

[grandy]

LOL I'm glad you want them to make the playoffs

Caldwell was extended. You know this right?

Since when do coaching contracts matter? Last year, the Rams fired Fisher a week after giving him an extension lol.

 

[tomdalton22]

I know more than you ever will know about football

you may know a lot about football...but when it comes to the Lions, you are delusional.

 

[turok]

Since when do coaching contracts matter? Last year, the Rams fired Fisher a week after giving him an extension lol.

Martha Firedstone is purportedly fond of Caldwell, but she is freaking ancient. Too bad that her late hubby didn't kick the bucket a decade sooner, or better still in '99. Then more likely no Millen-Mayhew. WCF Jr. doesn't exactly impress me either, his being a chip off the old blueblooded blockhead.

 

[kdp1980]

Stafford wasn't mobile at all. Allowed the 2 fumbles for TDs. Crazy tip pick because immobile Stafford couldn't change the throwing lane. All 5 turnovers were crazy and due to injury

Saints got to play us on the perfect injured weekend. They play in Week 11, Lions win that game

Gotta agree with you here, to a point. This is the game where Stafford had something like 12 balls batted at the Los, correct? He was not mobile enough to even move around and get semi-clear passing lanes. Him playing set the Lions up to lose. Stafford is too tough for his LIONS good sometimes, imo. This is the game I wish he would've sat, not sure if I mentioned that before the game or not, but I think I might've. Him playing with the injury didn't help the Lions one bit, in fact I'm going to go on record and say we WOULDVE been better off starting Rudock that one game

 

[grandy]

Speaking of playing through injuries, I hope the week off did Ziggy some good.

 

[kdp1980]

Speaking of playing through injuries, I hope the week off did Ziggy some good.

Need a spark, but my worries lie on the the interior dline. Just not doing their jobs in the run game. Howard might play a spoiler next week if the DTs don't straighten this shit out next week. Need a better effort out of those guys in the run d, and our LBs as well. Gotta make it harder on rookie qbs to perform. Take away the run and we got this imo. Pass rush, stop the run are the keys to winning next weekend

 

[LKP]

Need a spark, but my worries lie on the the interior dline. Just not doing their jobs in the run game. Howard might play a spoiler next week if the DTs don't straighten this shit out next week. Need a better effort out of those guys in the run d, and our LBs as well. Gotta make it harder on rookie qbs to perform. Take away the run and we got this imo. Pass rush, stop the run are the keys to winning next weekend

Run D has been good in 6 games and bad in 3 games. Robinson and Davis and Whitehead can do better. Ansah setting the edge was missed. Trubisky is mobile but nothing like Kizer either.

Howard killed the Lions at Soldier Field last year. Can't let that happen. Force Trubisky into some picks. Offense will need a good one, Bears have a decent D

 

[tomdalton22]

Run D has been good in 6 games and bad in 3 games. Robinson and Davis and Whitehead can do better. Ansah setting the edge was missed. Trubisky is mobile but nothing like Kizer either.

Howard killed the Lions at Soldier Field last year. Can't let that happen. Force Trubisky into some picks. Offense will need a good one, Bears have a decent D

I think Trubisky is pretty mobile. In 4 starts he has rushed for 110 yards on 15 attempts (7.3 YPC). In 8 starts by Kizer, 201 yards on 40 attempts (5.0 YPC)

 

[grandy]

Decker played limited snaps yesterday and looked good, should have more of an impact next week.

 

[kdp1980]

Run D has been good in 6 games and bad in 3 games. Robinson and Davis and Whitehead can do better. Ansah setting the edge was missed. Trubisky is mobile but nothing like Kizer either.

Howard killed the Lions at Soldier Field last year. Can't let that happen. Force Trubisky into some picks. Offense will need a good one, Bears have a decent D

Kinda worried about that rookie rb the bears got too, he won the Steelers game for them.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Bears aren't terrible, but we should be able to win that game. Forecast calls for some sun, mid 30's.

Staffords best game came at Lambeau in similar temps so that shouldn't be a concern. He made one really bad throw yesterday but has been lights out the last 2 games.

Lions 27-17

 

[tigermud]

The bears are going to be playing angry to after getting jobed on a goaline fumble call

 

[mhughes0021]

Run D has been good in 6 games and bad in 3 games. Robinson and Davis and Whitehead can do better. Ansah setting the edge was missed. Trubisky is mobile but nothing like Kizer either.

Howard killed the Lions at Soldier Field last year. Can't let that happen. Force Trubisky into some picks. Offense will need a good one, Bears have a decent D

We just let arguably the worst qb in the league have a top 4 qbr day on us. Spin that one fuckstick.

 

[LKP]

We just let arguably the worst qb in the league have a top 4 qbr day on us. Spin that one fuckstick.

Are you drunk. He had a 73 qb rating.

 

[tigermud]

The lions for whatever reason are a better road team this year than at home so they'll prolly win next week then lose to the Vikings bears and packers at home

9-7 miss playoffs due to not being able to beat anyone in the NFC south

 

[grandy]

The lions for whatever reason are a better road team this year than at home so they'll prolly win next week then lose to the Vikings bears and packers at home

9-7 miss playoffs due to not being able to beat anyone in the NFC south

For what it's worth, all their losses at home were close games against some good teams, which could've gone either way (Carolina was iffy, they were playing catch up in the 4th quarter). I could easily see them finishing 3-0 at home though.