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Ok.. then why is he putting up better numbers than Stafford?

I found one stat that Keenum is beating Stafford in and that's completion %. That's it.

Otherwise, Stafford leads in yards, yards per attempt, TD, TD%, lower INT %, yards per completion, rating......
 
I found one stat that Keenum is beating Stafford in and that's completion %. That's it.

Otherwise, Stafford leads in yards, yards per attempt, TD, TD%, lower INT %, yards per completion, rating......

Minnesota has the 5th ranked offense in the league. We're 14th.
 
Minnesota has the 5th ranked offense in the league. We're 14th.

So how exactly does that make Keenum numbers better than Staffords?? Because Minnesota has a better running game??

We've also scored more points than Minnesota.....30 more to be exact.

Something's missing in your assessment.
 
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Lions have better QB, Oline and weapons. RBs is Lions now with Cook hurt. Defense is very very close. Lions would be better if their Dline was healthy. Lions force more turnovers and have a very close passer rating allowed. Run D was good but has gone the last two weeks due to injuries


Caldwell 5-2 against Mike Zimmer.
 
Lions have better QB, Oline and weapons. RBs is Lions now with Cook hurt. Defense is very very close. Lions would be better if their Dline was healthy. Lions force more turnovers and have a very close passer rating allowed. Run D was good but has gone the last two weeks due to injuries


Caldwell 5-2 against Mike Zimmer.

the only edge the Lions have over MN is the QB
 
Lions have better QB, Oline and weapons. RBs is Lions now with Cook hurt. Defense is very very close. Lions would be better if their Dline was healthy. Lions force more turnovers and have a very close passer rating allowed. Run D was good but has gone the last two weeks due to injuries


Caldwell 5-2 against Mike Zimmer.

You shut up.......grown ups are talking.
 
I like how the Lions have better RBs and O-line yet the Vikings are better at running the ball
 
I like how the Lions have better RBs and O-line yet the Vikings are better at running the ball

don't forget the MN OL gives up fewer sacks as well.

MN D gives up fewer yards, yards per rush, yards per pass and points per game but the Lions have the better D
 
the only edge the Lions have over MN is the QB

QB, weapons, Oline, secondary Lion win for sure. Defense overall and RB even

Vikings can lose Griffen, Joseph and Hunter then we can talk about their pass rush and run D woes too
 
QB, weapons, Oline, secondary Lion win for sure. Defense overall and RB even

Vikings can lose Griffen, Joseph and Hunter then we can talk about their pass rush and run D woes too

we are talking about the players that are playing. Every team has injuries.

If you want to play the injury game...take Stafford out for the year and see how the Lions stack up with MN.
 
we are talking about the players that are playing. Every team has injuries.

If you want to play the injury game...take Stafford out for the year and see how the Lions stack up with MN.

Lions defense is very good. Especially the secondary. Lions close in passer rating allowed despite no pass rush due to injuries. Lions force more turnovers too which is key

Passing league, turnover league. Lions are the better team and it showed in Minneapolis. Now it will show again on Thursday
 
So how exactly does that make Keenum numbers better than Staffords?? Because Minnesota has a better running game??

We've also scored more points than Minnesota.....30 more to be exact.

Something's missing in your assessment.

We've also scored more nonoffensive points. 49 more. 18% of our points have been scored by the defense and special teams. Vs 0% for Minnesota.

Something that's missing in your assessment.
 
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We've also scored more nonoffensive points. 49 more. 18% of our points have been scored by the defense and special teams. Vs 0% for Minnesota.

Something that's missing in your assessment.

You're right.....never even thought about that. But my point remains the same.....Hughes argument is that Keenum's numbers are better because the Viqueens have more yards simply isn't true.
 
You're right.....never even thought about that. But my point remains the same.....Hughes argument is that Keenum's numbers are better because the Viqueens have more yards simply isn't true.

I'm just a bit drunk and an asshole.

I would take Stafford over Keenum any day.

Although based on ESPNs QBR, keenum is the #2 or #3 QB in the league this year.
Still not sure how they calculate that though.
 
You're right.....never even thought about that. But my point remains the same.....Hughes argument is that Keenum's numbers are better because the Viqueens have more yards simply isn't true.

I obviously don't think keenum is better. I'm trying to figure out how Detroit's weapons, oline, rbs and qb are better but they are 5th and were 14th in offense. I should have said performed better... his stats aren't better.
 
I obviously don't think keenum is better. I'm trying to figure out how Detroit's weapons, oline, rbs and qb are better but they are 5th and were 14th in offense. I should have said performed better... his stats aren't better.

I wouldn't say Detroit has better weapons. I'd take their receivers, tes, and rbs over ours all day
 
I wouldn't say Detroit has better weapons. I'd take their receivers, tes, and rbs over ours all day

Tate and Marvin are equal to Thielen and Diggs
Golladay and TJ Jones are better than Tredwell and Wright
Ebron and Rudolph are even
Fells is better than Morgan
Riddick better receiver than McKinnon or Murray
Abdullah solid receiver too

Cook TBD as injured rookie but looked promising in 3.5 games.

Lions have more and better weapons than Vikings.
 
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