2012 Offensive FA Rankings

[Rebbiv]

I removed any player who would be 36 or older to start the 2012 season and those that their options were picked up. Also, I limited to only those players with at least 450 Plate Appearances away the last 3 years. The end result is 50 players. Last 3 Years Away (assume park neutral).

MLB average is 80.83 RC/650 .332 OBP .416 SLG .748 OPS


A. Pujols 124.37 RC/650 .390 OBP .594 SLG .984 OPS

C. Beltran 111.66 RC/650 .394 OBP .496 SLG .891 OPS

P. Fielder 111.24 RC/650 .404 OBP .503 SLG .907 OPS

J. Willingham 95.34 RC/650 .352 OBP .467 SLG .819 OPS

J. Kubel 92.20 RC/650 .344 OBP .467 SLG .811 OPS

J. Rivera 89.36 RC/650 .340 OBP .458 SLG .798 OPS



**C. Pena 85.89 RC/650 .329 OBP .447 SLG .776 OPS

J. Gomes 84.74 RC/650 .337 OBP .421 SLG .758 OPS

R. Furcal 84.22 RC/650 .344 OBP .399 SLG .743 OPS

J. Cust 83.85 RC/650 .356 OBP .395 SLG .751 OPS

J. Reyes 83.45 RC/650 .333 OBP .412 SLG .745 OPS

**R. Ludwick 83.32 RC/650 .320 OBP .438 SLG .758 OPS

**B. Hawpe 82.28 RC/650 .345 OBP .420 SLG .765 OPS

**M. Cuddyer 82.13 RC/650 .331 OBP .443 SLG .774 OPS

K. Johnson 82.12 RC/650 .318 OBP .420 SLG .738 OPS

J. Rollins 79.62 RC/650 .316 OBP .407 SLG .723 OPS

E. Encarnacion 79.41 RC/650 .317 OBP .438 SLG .755 OPS

**K. ***udome 78.88 RC/650 .351 OBP .393 SLG .745 OPS

O. Infante 78.22 RC/650 .325 OBP .412 SLG .737 OPS

**L. Overbay 77.17 RC/650 .329 OBP .399 SLG .728 OPS


**D. DeJesus 77.17 RC/650 .333 OBP .413 SLG .746 OPS

**A. Ramirez 76.73 RC/650 .306 OBP .432 SLG .738 OPS

**B. Phillips 76.36 RC/650 .332 OBP .406 SLG .738 OPS

**M. Ellis 74.02 RC/650 .328 OBP .379 SLG .707 OPS

R. Doumit 74.02 RC/650 .319 OBP .415 SLG .734 OPS

Y. Molina 73.31 RC/650 .338 OBP .404 SLG .742 OPS

**J. Pierre 72.90 RC/650 .343 OBP .349 SLG .692 OPS

**G. Sizemore 72.22 RC/650 .296 OBP .410 SLG .706 OPS

**C. Ross 71.75 RC/650 .300 OBP .414 SLG .714 OPS

**N. Punto 71.55 RC/650 .345 OBP .345 SLG .690 OPS

**J. Cantu 71.29 RC/650 .311 OBP .404 SLG .715 OPS

**S. Hairston 70.53 Rc/650 .290 OBP .420 SLG .710 OPS



**A. Hill 69.99 RC/650 .296 OBP .394 SLG .690 OPS

**C. Crisp 69.91 RC/650 .302 RC/650 .367 SLG .669 OPS

**W. Bloomquist 68.82 RC/650 .304 OBP .369 SLG .673 OPS

**P. Burrell 68.29 RC/650 .314 OBP .367 SLG .681 OPS

**W. Harris 67.16 RC/650 .351 OBP .317 SLG .668 OPS

**N. McLouth 66.64 RC/650 .318 OBP .349 SLG .667 OPS

**A. Kearns 66.10 RC/650 .336 OBP .356 SLG .692 OPS

**C. Barmes 64.33 RC/650 .285 OBP .382 SLG .667 OPS

**Al. Gonzalez 64.02 RC/650 .282 OBP .391 SLG .673 OPS

**R. Hernandez 63.52 RC/650 .300 OBP .378 SLG .678 OPS

**F. Lopez 63.19 RC/650 .316 OBP .333 OBP .649 OPS

**E. Renteria 61.20 RC/650 .311 OBP .343 OBP .654 OPS



**J. Hairston 59.61 RC/650 .302 OBP .324 SLG .626 OPS

**R. Ankiel 59.36 RC/650 .276 OBP .363 SLG .639 OPS

**R. Cedeno 57.21 RC/650 .280 OBP .352 SLG .632 OPS

**R. Santiago 57.18 RC/650 .305 OBP .316 SLG .621 OPS

**Y. Betancourt 56.68 RC/650 .272 OBP .361 SLG .633 OPS

**C. Izturis 41.56 RC/650 .263 OBP .265 SLG .528 OPS



** = below positional average


For comparisons:

**D. Young 76.82 RC/650 .319 OBP .441 SLG .760 OPS

**C. Guillen 73.30 RC/650 .338 OBP .407 SLG .745 OPS

**M. Ordonez 66.61 RC/650 .324 OBP .370 SLG .694 OPS

**B. Inge 58.57 RC/650 .290 OBP .353 SLG .643 OPS

 

[beez]

We could go get Omar back.

 

[Thumb]

We could go get Omar back.

I don't know why nobody mentioned this until now.

He plays 2b, don't have to move Jhonny and piss him off like if we went after Reyes, or Ramirez.

He is ok with a bat, not fantastic, but very serviceable, and relatively cheap.

And I bet he could play 3rd if we still went after K. Johnson.

 

[stonecold2136]

We could go get Omar back.

Omar sucked last year

 

[jdeb]

Leyland and Omar never seen eye to eye. Would be shocked if that ever happened.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Just a passing thought, but if we signed someone like A-Ram could Inge play 2nd. Obviously he is a horrid hitter, but what if he would play Gold Glove caliber D there? Pipedream?

 

[Rebbiv]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Just a passing thought, but if we signed someone like A-Ram could Inge play 2nd. Obviously he is a horrid hitter, but what if he would play Gold Glove caliber D there? Pipedream?

There is still an issue. You suggest signing a below average offensive 3B who is terrible on defense and moving the guy terrible on offense to a new position, with the premise he would be above average on defense.

You virtually gain nothing.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Aramis Ramirez is not below average offensively. I believe he has hit over .280 for his career while averaging about 25 HRs a year. And he only strikes out about 60-70 times a year. And his career numbers really climb when you take out the 2010 year since he was hindered badly by injuries. And for errors and fielding I am not sure where he would be classified.

 

[beez]

I was just joking about Omar. Not that for the price it would be terrible if he flopped, but it was just a joke.

 

[kalinecountry]

Reds pick up Brandon Phillips' option for next year. So he's off the market at 2nd base.

 

[Rebbiv]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Aramis Ramirez is not below average offensively. I believe he has hit over .280 for his career while averaging about 25 HRs a year. And he only strikes out about 60-70 times a year. And his career numbers really climb when you take out the 2010 year since he was hindered badly by injuries. And for errors and fielding I am not sure where he would be classified.

Career Away

.274 BAVG .328 OBP .484 SLG .812 OPS 22.45 PA/HR

Last 3 years Away

.246 BAVG .306 OBP .432 SLG .738 OPS 24.65 PA/HR

2008 Away

.254 BAVG .315 OBP .437 SLG .752 OPS 31.1 PA/HR

2007 Away

.283 Away .326 OBP .454 SLG .780 OPS 30.0 PA/HR




Career at Wrigley Field

.308 BAVG .373 OBP .552 SLG .925 OPS 19.07 PA/HR



This is where the uninformed has issues. On the surface, Aramis Ramirez is an All Star offensive 3B. In actuality, here is a player that has greatly benefited from his home park and whose away stats over the last 3-5 years (shows trend) suggests he is below average.


The Tigers are filled with average to below average players hitting away from Comerica Park. It would be nice to not overpay for someone else that will compound the issue scoring runs away from Comerica. I will standby my assertion that he is below average, and certainly he is from a defensive standpoint.

 

[stonecold2136]

A Ramirez would be a disaster in Detroit. I doubt he would hit 15 HR's for the year......He is also a slow starter..... which would drive Jim Leyland Bananna's

 

[Mitchrapp]

Drive Leyland Banana's? He kept Raburn and Inge playing in the first half. He seems to have patience. As far as Aram and anyone else for that matter I think away stats can become a bit overrated. Its not all about a home park built for a particular player all the time. I see players hit well at home, not so much on the road. Who then get traded and again hit well at home and not so much on the road in their new digs. I think road numbers are more about hotels, no home cooking and having to play in different parks etc.

 

[Rebbiv]

As a general rule, yes, players in neutral ball parks hit better at home than on the road. And yes, travel, living in a hotel, etc could very well be the key factor. But all players play half their games on the road, so this influence comprises half their games.

Home vs Away MLB AVG Hitters

2011 = .734 OPS vs .706 OPS (28 pt dif)
2010 = .750 OPS vs .708 OPS (42 pt dif)
2009 = .770 OPS vs .733 OPS (37 pt dif)
2008 = .769 OPS vs .730 OPS (39 pt dif)
2007 = .772 OPS vs .745 OPS (27 pt dif)

Home vs Away DET hitters

2011 = .811 OPS vs .738 OPS (73 pt dif)
2010 = .775 OPS vs .726 OPS (49 pt dif)
2009 = .776 OPS vs .720 OPS (56 pt dif)
2008 = .829 OPS vs .741 OPS (88 pt dif)
2007 = .823 OPS vs .783 OPS (40 pt dif)

Home vs Away COL hitters

2011 = .796 OPS vs .683 OPS (116 pt dif)
2010 = .866 OPS vs .654 OPS (212 pt dif)
2009 = .850 OPS vs .718 OPS (132 pt dif)
2008 = .804 OPS vs .699 OPS (105 pt dif)
2007 = .853 OPS vs .730 OPS (123 pt dif)


Given neutral setting, a player is generally 30-50 pt difference between home and away. When that difference is 100 points or more, like Ramirez, then he is greatly influenced by the ball park in which he plays. The MLB average is offset from the extremes. Most everyone realizes Coors home field advantage and Petco's disadvantage. Yet, some ball parks favor lefties over righties and vice versus. Yankee stadium favors lefties, Fenway favors righties.

Additionally, I would like to add, that HR hitters are general not effected between home and away when it comes to their rate (PA/HR), unless their home park has a HR bias.

Miguel Cabrera types are the exception, and generally hit well home or away. I normalize everyone with Away stats, as this is closer to a real picture when you want to compare players.

With MLB 3B with at least 400 Away Plate Appearances over the last 3 years, Aramis Ramirez is 20th. From 2008-2010, he was 25th.

 

[beez]

Was just pondering possible trade opportunities... without looking at how many years are left on his contract what would you guys think about making an attempt at Chone figgins? Coming off of a terible year, kind of large salary, if you only had to pay him a year or 2 and didn't have to give up too much...maybe? Not too many options out there short of just rolling with Santiago.

 

[mjsb2]

Chone Figgins is completely worthless.

Worse than Brandon Inge at this point.

 

[lonesometiger]

KalineCountry[/color]]Reds pick up Brandon Phillips' option for next year. So he's off the market at 2nd base.

no surprize to me. He's the deal at this point.

 

[tycobb420]

Aaron Hill or Omar seem to be the best options among those available.