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A failure of leadership : Rick Snyder is a liar

your guy got blasted....I guess you have to deal with it


Maybe so but come mid-terms your party is done and you know it... This will just seal their fate... Doing this behind closed days in a lame duck session.. Typical sore loser republicans... In a way this will just speed up the demise of the republican party..

I guess Rick Snyder was the detroit free press man until they wrote this...LOL
 
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your guy got blasted....I guess you have to deal with it


Me and my wife have never had the good luck to work for a union... But i will support them and make sure all the legislatures who voted for this do not get re-elected if possible. Typical republicans.. Doing legislation without debate if they can...LOL
 
Maybe so but come mid-terms your party is done and you know it... This will just seal their fate... Doing this behind closed days in a lame duck session.. Typical sore loser republicans... In a way in the end this will just speed up the demise of the republican party..

I guess Rick Snyder was the detroit free press man until they wrote this...LOL


like in 2010? the dems dont vote much in midterms.....
 
unions were originally created to fight owners who paid next to nothing and enforced unsafe working conditions and long hours. the government today has Minimum Wage, OSHA, and created laws around an 8 hour workday.

now unions fight the easy battles that they know they can win, but those battles would be won by an employee in a court of law anyway. they fail to ever take a meaningful stance on important issues and employees can always sue if in a situation of great import and can prove wrong doing, no different than what the unions offer to do.

all this without having to pay union dues, which if you could pocket that money instead of paying the union, why wouldn't you? now with MI being right to work, you no longer have to pay the union dues but still can benefit from the perceived union assistance.

my wife is a teacher and union rep, so i get the union position. unfortunately the union workers constantly complain about inconsequential BS and fail to stand up when it matters. in today's world unions are quickly becoming a dinosaur as they routinely prove themselves irrelevant, incapable or unwilling to put up a meaningful fight. she's been working without a contract for over 5 years now for crying out loud because the union has no power. they are not allowed by law to go on strike and King Mike Bloomberg will not even discuss the contracts. what good is the union in that situation? none. they'd be better off suing the city and taking it to the courts, but the union doesn't even have the backbone to do that. since hurricane sandy, her school has had mold and fecal tests that came back positive, but nothing is being done about it. good ol' union sure is the right way to go, eh? i keep telling her they'd be better off having OSHA come in, but for some reason that isn't happening. her union next-in-command has said they will go to the media...but alas they haven't even done that! but go ahead and keep collecting those union dues...yea!!!!

unions are useless today.
 
The threat of union action must still have some power (or something...I'm not sure what the cause is yet). Right to work states have lower average wages.
 
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The threat of union action must still have some power (or something...I'm not sure what the cause is yet). Right to work states have lower average wages.

Maybe not....I don't think this correlation = causation. Rural = less wealth. Rural = Republican. Republican = Right to Work.
 
unions are useless today.

So what will non-union and unorganized employees ever be able to do altogether about the massive outsourcing and off-shoring of former US jobs by business over the past 30+ years and still counting? Obviously our bought and paid for representatives in DC have not done much if anything to address this ever-growing national problem, and instead have created and passed legislation that indirectly rewards the practice. Free trade really only exists here in the US, and we need DC to create and pass fair trade legislation. Otherwise it may not matter whether or not unions still exist, b/c almost every job that is not nailed down here in the US by physical necessity already is or will be vulnerable for export. Unions have pressured Congress to act on this ongoing travesty, and w/o them who will? The individual voters?

Corporate capitalists have long exploited the peasant labor of socialist nations, just as they had with US labor in the early 20th century, they just have recreated that era elsewhere. Fewer US job results in less taxable income, growing unemployment, lower wages, less benefits, millions and millions more living on the government dole, and ever-higher federal debt. This quite likely won't end "well". I just hope that I am deceased when the "USS Titanic" finally hits its foreign creditor icebergs and sinks below the waves of its multi-trillion $$$ bloody-red ocean of debt.

Its not just the unions that are considered dinosaurs by many who feel that they need to become extinct, but to many if not most companies, the US work force itself is as well, since they are merely expensive and often reduceable "overhead" when compared to the much lower "global" wage and benefit scale. A corporate CEO's wet dream would be to employ as few US workers as possible, while selling and/or leasing their cheap imported products and outsourced services to the ever-shrinking amount of mostly middle-class consumers who can still afford them.

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me."


--Martin Niem?ller


"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

--George Santayana
 
So what will non-union and unorganized employees ever be able to do altogether about the massive outsourcing and off-shoring of former US jobs by business over the past 30+ years and still counting? Obviously our bought and paid for representatives in DC have not done much if anything to address this ever-growing national problem, and instead have created and passed legislation that indirectly rewards the practice. Free trade really only exists here in the US, and we need DC to create and pass fair trade legislation. Otherwise it may not matter whether or not unions still exist, b/c almost every job that is not nailed down here in the US by physical necessity already is or will be vulnerable for export. Unions have pressured Congress to act on this ongoing travesty, and w/o them who will? The individual voters?

Corporate capitalists have long exploited the peasant labor of socialist nations, just as they had with US labor in the early 20th century, they just have recreated that era elsewhere. Fewer US job results in less taxable income, growing unemployment, lower wages, less benefits, millions and millions more living on the government dole, and ever-higher federal debt. This quite likely won't end "well". I just hope that I am deceased when the "USS Titanic" finally hits its foreign creditor icebergs and sinks below the waves of its multi-trillion $$$ bloody-red ocean of debt.

Its not just the unions that are considered dinosaurs by many who feel that they need to become extinct, but to many if not most companies, the US work force itself is as well, since they are merely expensive and often reduceable "overhead" when compared to the much lower "global" wage and benefit scale. A corporate CEO's wet dream would be to employ as few US workers as possible, while selling and/or leasing their cheap imported products and outsourced services to the ever-shrinking amount of mostly middle-class consumers who can still afford them.

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me."


--Martin Niem?ller


"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

--George Santayana




"""So what will non-union and unorganized employees ever be able to do altogether about the massive outsourcing and off-shoring of former US jobs by business over the past 30+ years and still counting? """""

maybe thats why they went overseas
 
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