Andy Oliver traded to pirates for catcher

[kalinecountry]

The Pirates have acquired minor league LHP Andrew Oliver from Detroit in exchange for minor league catcher Ramon Cabrera.

Ramon Cabrera is more Santiago than Miguel. Based on stats, seems like he has more offensive potential than Holaday. Don't know about Defense.
new Cabrera is from Venezuela. Caracas. He's 23.
DetroitTigerTales

Cabrera hit .276 .342 .367 .709 with 3 HR, 50 RBI, and 0 SB in 429 PA at AA last year. Tigers have to put him on the roster.
Cabrera is a switch hitter, was a mid season all star in 3 minor leagues. Signed in 2008, so needs protection from Rule 5 draft.
Tigerdog

Ramon Cabrera is not a candidate for Tigers backup catcher. He'll start out at Toledo or Erie, depending on whether Holaday makes team.
Jason Beck

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2012/12/detroit_tigers_trade_left-hand.html
Detroit Tigers trade left-hander Andy Oliver to Pittsburgh Pirates for catcher Ramon Cabrera.
from Mlive

http://www.blessyouboys.com/detroit...e-andy-oliver-to-pittsburgh-for-ramon-cabrera
Prospect Swap: Tigers Trade Andy Oliver to Pittsburgh for Ramon Cabrera.
from bybtb

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...er-Pirates-minor-league-catcher-Ramon-Cabrera
Tigers send Andy Oliver to Pirates for minor league catcher Ramon Cabrera.
from the detnews

http://detroit.sbnation.com/tigers/2012/12/5/3733294/tigers-pirates-trade-andy-oliver-ramon-cabrera
Tigers trade Andy Oliver to Pirates for Ramon Cabrera.
from DetroitSBNation

http://beck.mlblogs.com/2012/12/05/tigers-trade-oliver-to-pirates-for-ramon-cabrera/
Tigers trade Oliver to Pirates for Ramon Cabrera.
from Jason Beck's Tigers blog

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121205&content_id=40543772&vkey=pr_det&c_id=det
Tigers Acquire Ramon Cabrera from Pirates.
Press Release from the Tigers official site


found on twitter;
I heard Andy Oliver was so excited that he got traded to Pittsburgh, he couldn't control himself.

Ramon Cabrera takes Oliver's place on Tigers 40-man, protecting him in tomorrow's Rule 5 draft. Detroit now has 38, and could be drafting.
Pirates had excess C's on roster (4), Tigers had excess LHP with control issues on roster, so they swap...

http://www.detroittigertales.com/2012/12/tigers-acquire-catcher-ramon-cabrera.html?spref=tw
Tigers Acquire Catcher Ramon Cabrera from Pirates.
from DetroitTigerTalesblog

Mark Anderson of TigsTown tweeted that Cabrera will provide competition for Bryan Holaday in 2013. Jason Beck reports that he is not a candidate to back up next year. Which one is right? I suspect both may be right, because I still expect the Tigers to add an experienced major league receiver to be the primary backup.

 

[Rebbiv]

http://players.piratesprospects.com/2010/06/ramon-cabrera.html

 

[mgoblue030703]

Not sure I understand this move. I like the fact that it says he makes consistent contact and puts the ball in play, but there is not much to be desired after that...unless you put a lot of stock into his ability to swing the bat from both sides. He is listed at either 5' 7'' or 5' 8'' depending on the sites I have seen, has just started catching, has a terrible throwing arm, no power, and the list goes on. Oliver, I always thought, still had the potential to be something despite his struggles here previously. This move really makes no sense to me. Now, I understand that he would not play much, but if Avila goes down, and the plan is to have this guy as the backup, then, wtf?

 

[af1991]

Perplexed. I didn't have a lot of hope for Oliver, but young LHPs are a nice deal sweetner in a bigger trade. Swapping him straight up for a total gamble is confusing to say the least.

 

[kalinecountry]

maybe in the Tigers eyes/minds, he was low man lefty pitcher speaking, given the chances to relieve and still didn't have any control/command.
the kid always looked scared, like a deer in headlights when he pitched. jmo.

 

[af1991]

maybe in the Tigers eyes/minds, he was low man lefty pitcher speaking, given the chances to relieve and still didn't have any control/command.
the kid always looked scared, like a deer in headlights when he pitched. jmo.

I agree. There is always something we can't see (whether health, contract, attitude) and I agree completely about his mound presence.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Garbage in, garbage out.

 

[Thumb]

Oliver was never going to pitch in Detroit, even as a lefty he was blocked by Smyly, Below, and Wilk.

He has been getting worse every year of his MiLB career, not better. He is 25 now, and not really a prospect anymore, most likely a career minor-leaguer unless he gets straightened out.

It was a fair trade, and you can never have too many catchers.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Garbage in, garbage out.

Younger garbage in, older garbage out. That's my way of making the trade look good

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Younger garbage in, older garbage out. That's my way of making the trade look good

I can agree with that. Love that silver lining. LOL!