can Paul Ryan tell the truth about anything???

[Michchamp]

People actually seem surprised?

Nobody ever heard the old cliche' about how you can tell a politician is lying because his lips are moving?

right... I can understand characterizing your opponent as a bum, saying we need a change, you'll cut taxes, boost economy, etc. etc. but I can't recall a politician that would lie about the small talk stuff too.

I don't remember George W Bush talking up his war record, or his GPA at Yale.

Ryan's lies about literally everything he's asked. it's either funny, or completely pathetic, depending on how you look at it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Libs think Pubs lie, Pubs think Libs lie. Welcome to Earth. Its funny how some of you think Ryan lies more than the next guy.

 

[Thumb]

Libs think Pubs lie, Pubs think Libs lie. Welcome to Earth. Its funny how some of you think Ryan lies more than the next guy.

Well, there is some truth to it Mitch.

Several times he's been called out on pretty big claims, considering he's been a candidate for what all of 3 weeks now, he's got the GOP doing some serious damage control already.

He obviously lies, same as all politicians, but well ahead of the curve already.

 

[mhughes0021]

Its better than the lie we have witnessed for 4 yrs...dont ya think??

Were losing jobs cause Bush let them all go oversees. Obama realizes the real problem in america....most americans are fucking dumb. So he wants to put money in education and training to rebuild the middle class the the republicans want to so desperately destroy. The unemployment number is higher than ever cause people are dumber more than ever. People need to take responsibility for themselves and get a fucking job and stop blaming the president. People that do that so sound so ignorant lol.....if you were sitting in an interview and they asked you why youve been unemployed for so long and your answer is "obama"...i can guarantee you that hiring manager will view you as a piece of shit with no work ethic. You want a job...get off your sorry ass and get one.

 

[tsmith7559]

Were losing jobs cause Bush let them all go oversees. Obama realizes the real problem in america....most americans are fucking dumb. So he wants to put money in education and training to rebuild the middle class the the republicans want to so desperately destroy. The unemployment number is higher than ever cause people are dumber more than ever. People need to take responsibility for themselves and get a fucking job and stop blaming the president. People that do that so sound so ignorant lol.....if you were sitting in an interview and they asked you why youve been unemployed for so long and your answer is "obama"...i can guarantee you that hiring manager will view you as a piece of shit with no work ethic. You want a job...get off your sorry ass and get one.

Education spending has gone up ever fucking year with no affect in school scores...nothing more than filling the pockets of the unions, like you said they're dumber than ever.

Bush sent them overseas eh??? LOL, good one..Is that the Dems slogan this week? Bush's average unemployment rate was around 5% for his 8 years.

2/3 of Obama's job creation have been the low pay variety.
Dependency is way, way up, more food stamps, disability claims....that's what he wants, these people you refer to are the Dem's base, thats who Obama needs for re-election.

His campaign said last year that there giving up on the white "working class". He needs young people(not entering the work force yet), woman(single) and people depending on the gov't for the handout(he is more than willing to give).....nice demographic.

MHughes, you sound more like a Romney supporter than an Obama one???

 

[mhughes0021]

How much of those jobs bush created were govt jobs? Bush was more of a socialist than obama was.

 

[tsmith7559]

How much of those jobs bush created were govt jobs? Bush was more of a socialist than obama was.

the same unemployment average for 8 years as Clinton..... which in both cases was around 5% which is pretty dam near what is considered full employment.

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/historicaltables/totalgovernmentsince1962.asp

numbers show Bush actually cut govt jobs from Clinton and Obama increased....oops

 

[Michchamp]

there were fewer private sector jobs at the end of Bush's tenure than there were at the start of it.

 

[tsmith7559]

there were fewer private sector jobs at the end of Bush's tenure than there were at the start of it.

thats what happens when the dems take over 2/3 of the govt....and it continues today...oops

 

[Michchamp]

thats what happens when the dems take over 2/3 of the govt....and it continues today...oops

dems want fewer jobs? I think you have it backwards.

 

[Thumb]

the same unemployment average for 8 years as Clinton..... which in both cases was around 5% which is pretty dam near what is considered full employment.

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/historicaltables/totalgovernmentsince1962.asp

numbers show Bush actually cut govt jobs from Clinton and Obama increased....oops

Yet you constantly bitch about the automaker bailouts, which saved thousands of jobs.

Also you mention Bush's average, but fail to mention the end of his term it was up to 7.4%, so HOLY SHIT!!!OBAMA DIDN'T COST US THOSE JOBS?!

Unemployment under Bush rose 1.6% from where it was when he took office to when he left.

Unemployment went up 0.3% under Obama from when he took office to now.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Keep spewing FOX rhetoric.

 

[tsmith7559]

Yet you constantly bitch about the automaker bailouts, which saved thousands of jobs.

Also you mention Bush's average, but fail to mention the end of his term it was up to 7.4%, so HOLY SHIT!!!OBAMA DIDN'T COST US THOSE JOBS?!

Unemployment under Bush rose 1.6% from where it was when he took office to when he left.

Unemployment went up 0.3% under Obama from when he took office to now.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Keep spewing FOX rhetoric.

please revise your numbers when you show the republicans in control of 2/3 of the govt....."you wont like what you may find"

 

[tsmith7559]

dems want fewer jobs? I think you have it backwards.

no, its the results you get when they're in control

 

[Thumb]

please revise your numbers when you show the republicans in control of 2/3 of the govt....."you wont like what you may find"

Then you should revise your statement about Obama and blame the Dem Congress.

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

I mean, you're not actually dumb enough to think there is some magic switch the POTUS can throw and create half a million jobs out of thin air do you?

Unemployment has to do with the economy, and the economy went to shit under GW, now if you want to blame the Dem Congress, go right ahead, but then stop praising Bush's unemployment averages, because after all, it was Congress that's responsible.

 

[tsmith7559]

Then you should revise your statement about Obama and blame the Dem Congress.

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

I mean, you're not actually dumb enough to think there is some magic switch the POTUS can throw and create half a million jobs out of thin air do you?

Unemployment has to do with the economy, and the economy went to shit under GW, now if you want to blame the Dem Congress, go right ahead, but then stop praising Bush's unemployment averages, because after all, it was Congress that's responsible.

you may want to look into the work force participation rates.....it currently matches 1981 levels...and for men its at an all time low. Unemployment rate means nothing...millions have left the work force. Add 90,000 jobs and the rate goes down 0.20%, lol...sure