Divison Title failures

[biggunsbob]

Article
Detroit Free Press
By Carlos Monarrez.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...ons-jim-caldwell-nfc-north-failure/963320001/

I like Carlos . He tells it like it is . Since 1993 ... lol even Tampa Bay has one more title then the Lions and they left the divison in 2001 . JIm as usual gets a tad testy when the question about divison titles comes up.

Packers 12
Vikings 7
Bears 4
Tampa Bay 1.

 

[LKP]

Lions win it in 2011, 2013, 2014 and 2016 if not for refs and injuries. Carlos is clueless.

 

[tomdalton22]

The Lions will hang 4 "true division title" banners this off season

 

[biggunsbob]

Lions win it in 2011, 2013, 2014 and 2016 if not for refs and injuries. Carlos is clueless.

Lmao.
Typical troll move by you. Making excuses for Lions failures .Fact is the Lions flat out choked like they always do. Good teams overcoming injuries, and bad officiating.
Fact is 4-23 for Caldwell verses teams over .500 is all you need to know .

 

[Mitchrapp]

The Lions will hang 4 "true division title" banners this off season

Lol.

 

[LKP]

Lmao.
Typical troll move by you. Making excuses for Lions failures .fact is the Lions Flat out choked like they always do. SOL.

Lions never choked. They are getting royally screwed over since 2011

2010 Stafford injury
2009 and Millen era they were garbage.
90s and 2000 they lacked a QB but had good/solid teams

 

[Mitchrapp]

Lions never choked. They are getting royally screwed over since 2011

2010 Stafford injury
2009 and Millen era they were garbage.
90s and 2000 they lacked a QB but had good/solid teams

How is lack of a QB getting royalty screwed? Two words, Case Keenum.

 

[LKP]

How is lack of a QB getting royalty screwed? Two words, Case Keenum.

Lions have a good QB. Royally screwed was not due to bad QBs

90s they weren't royally screwed. They just had poor QBs going against Aikman and Favre and Steve Young. Try a little reading comprehension next time.

Keenum is better than Bradford and Bridgewater. Vikings got super lucky they lucked into playing the best QB for them. Vikings had way more health on defense which is what carries them. Oline was healthier too. Vikings were way healthier than Detroit which helped them win the division. Detroit would 11-3 or 12-2 with Viking D and Oline health

 

[Mitchrapp]

Lions have a good QB. Royally screwed was not due to bad QBs

90s they weren't royally screwed. They just had poor QBs going against Aikman and Favre and Steve Young. Try a little reading comprehension next time.

Keenum is better than Bradford and Bridgewater. Vikings got super lucky they lucked into playing the best QB for them. Vikings had way more health on defense which is what carries them. Oline was healthier too. Vikings were way healthier than Detroit which helped them win the division. Detroit would 11-3 or 12-2 with Viking D and Oline health

I referring to this "90s and 2000 they lacked a QB but had good/solid teams." if that's not what you meant than 2011, I have 2 words for you, Case Keenum.

 

[LKP]

I referring to this "90s and 2000 they lacked a QB but had good/solid teams." if that's not what you meant than 2011, I have 2 words for you, Case Keenum.

Keenum is playing well. Lions didn't have good QB play every year. The years they were decent they made the playoffs. 6 of 10 times

We'll see how Keenum does in the playoffs when the Lions would get knocked out in the 90s do to lack of QB

And Vikings are all good health and defense. And they are catching teams at the right time. Played Saints before New Orleans figured out the secondary and Baltimore earlier when they had bigger O problems both at home (not road like Detroit). Vikings lost to Steelers, healthy Lions and Panthers. They beat a good Rams team in Minnesota but Rams are a bit overrated. Vikigns were just healthier than Detroit or Detroit sweeps them on Thanksgiving. Beat shit Bears, beat Bucs, beat Browns, beat shit Bengals at home, beat shit Redskins. Took out Rodgers in Minnesota. Beat Falcons because refs didn't fuck them over.

Detroit is a better team than Minnesota with equal health

 

[Mitchrapp]

Keenum is better than Bradford and Bridgewater. Vikings got super lucky they lucked into playing the best QB for them.

BEFORE the season he wasn't, he had a career rating of 78.4

 

[LKP]

BEFORE the season he wasn't, he had a career rating of 78.4

They got super lucky he is actually better though and they were able to find that out.

Bradford or Bridgewater play the year and the team is 6-8 right now

 

[grandy]

If we're playing the injuries card, the Packers are the true 2017 NFC North champs

 

[LKP]

If we're playing the injuries card, the Packers are the true 2017 NFC North champs

Packers go 3-5 in those games is a high possibility with Rodgers. Lose at Vikings still, lose to Detroit still, lose to Ravens and Steelers still. Lose to Saints still

The injury to Rodgers changed nothing from their record. It basically made the Bears, Bucs and Browns game close. That's it

 

[LKP]

The biggest QB injury in the division was Stafford's ankle injury against Saints and Vikings (final 2 drives)


Lions decimated O and Dline from injuries were the biggest injuries in NFL

 

[tomdalton22]

The biggest QB injury in the division was Stafford's ankle injury against Saints and Vikings (final 2 drives)

you are a fucking idiot

 

[Mitchrapp]

2 drives VS 10 games, lol.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Lions have a good QB. Royally screwed was not due to bad QBs

90s they weren't royally screwed. They just had poor QBs going against Aikman and Favre and Steve Young. Try a little reading comprehension next time.

Keenum is better than Bradford and Bridgewater. Vikings got super lucky they lucked into playing the best QB for them. Vikings had way more health on defense which is what carries them. Oline was healthier too. Vikings were way healthier than Detroit which helped them win the division. Detroit would 11-3 or 12-2 with Viking D and Oline health

Troy Aikman was average at best. I am convinced that just about anybody would have won multiple titles with that Cowboys team. They were so stacked at every position! Erik Kramer probably would've won two or three titles with that Cowboys team

 

[Mitchrapp]

Aikman was hard to judge. Watching him play maybe he was a bit overrated back then but nowadays people dismiss him altogether. Just a different game. I thought he was good. I thought he made the plays when he needed too.. Yeah they had a stacked team but compared to other QB of his time I think he rated well.

 

[tomdalton22]

Aikman's career passer rating was 81.4. He played from 1989 - 2000

here are some others in that timeframe

Young 96.8 85-99
Marino 86.4 83-99
Gannon 84.7 87-04
Kelly 84.4 86-96
Kosar 81.8 85-96
O'Donnell 81.8 91-03
Cunningham 81.5 85-01
Boomer 81.1 84-97
moon 80.9 84-00
Hostetler 80.5 85-97
Elway 79.9 83-98