Dropped to 18/17. Amazed not

[Michchamp]

here's what I have to say about this:

durrr durrr durrrr sports cliche, sports cliche, sports cliche.

 

[tomdalton22]

The annoying thing about the Polls is that had Michigan lost to ND, but beaten Akron and UConn as they did, we'd be about the same spot in the polls, but not "the worst 4-0" team.

Wins are wins ...ugly or not --- but this had better not be a precursor to BigTen play because if so, we're going 4-4 and will finish an ugly 8-4*

If they lost to ND and barely beat Akron and UConn in back to back weeks they wouldn't be in the top 25.

 

[TheVictors]

If they lost to ND and barely beat Akron and UConn in back to back weeks they wouldn't be in the top 25.

maybe. but the polls have proven over the years to be stupid, too. lose in weeks 1-2 and climb back by the end but drop a week 12 game and you're fucked.

polls are stupid and this Michigan team looks like shit right now.

 

[jever4321]

The bad part about this is that Michigan should not allow really bad teams like Akron and UConn to play their best games of the season.

They hit a lot of their timing patterns quickly and accurately. There were some well executed plays that are almost impossible to defend. Compound that with Devins F'ups and we had a nail biter. sorry for the derr, derr, sports cliche's...

 

[Michlady]

Devine seems to not know what he wants at time

And I too am very concerned

 

[zyxt9]

seems denard deserved to be starting QB over DG last year based on this year's performances by DG, despite grumblings to the contrary. DG's confidence is easily shaken whereas DR wasn't rattled so easily.

i did think DG playing at the end last year was going to help him build confidence going into this year; however, he seems a shell of who he was by the end of last year. something changed at the end of the ND game. likely the pick 6. regardless he has to shake that off and play better. that starts by no longer doing his spin move that either loses 10+ more yards than just being sacked initially or results in INTs. he needs to understand what worked in high school or vs practice squad doesn't work vs 1st string Ds. unfortunately it is his Go-To maneuver, and opponents know it and are ready for it. if we've all recognized it and anticipate him spinning like he does every time, surely opponents are picking up on it too. i'd be telling my guys to just rush enough to startle him and initiate his spin move but be slow enough that you let him spin and keep pressure on him for an additional 10+ yard sack or possible INT when he throws it up for grabs. UM QB coach needs to break him of that habit. how? convince him that on every play he is throwing from inside his own end zone maybe? seems the only way to prevent him from spinning and running backwards is to make him think doing so would result in a safety.

 

[Michchamp]

I don't think the pick-TD against ND bothered Gardner; he seemed to bounce back okay from that one. instead I think it was the constant press on him for too many turnovers in general that made him too gun-shy.

he probably needs to stay off facebook, twitter, email, etc. and stop reading the papers until the season is over. he seems to be influenced by popular opinion.

you're right that it never seemed to bother Denard. he'd just keep smiling and playing the game, whatever happened.

 

[TheVictors]

I think the OL sucks and Gardner should operate out of the shotgun 95% of the time...

 

[rumseyhouse77]

seems denard deserved to be starting QB over DG last year based on this year's performances by DG, despite grumblings to the contrary. DG's confidence is easily shaken whereas DR wasn't rattled so easily.

i did think DG playing at the end last year was going to help him build confidence going into this year; however, he seems a shell of who he was by the end of last year. something changed at the end of the ND game. likely the pick 6. regardless he has to shake that off and play better. that starts by no longer doing his spin move that either loses 10+ more yards than just being sacked initially or results in INTs. he needs to understand what worked in high school or vs practice squad doesn't work vs 1st string Ds. unfortunately it is his Go-To maneuver, and opponents know it and are ready for it. if we've all recognized it and anticipate him spinning like he does every time, surely opponents are picking up on it too. i'd be telling my guys to just rush enough to startle him and initiate his spin move but be slow enough that you let him spin and keep pressure on him for an additional 10+ yard sack or possible INT when he throws it up for grabs. UM QB coach needs to break him of that habit. how? convince him that on every play he is throwing from inside his own end zone maybe? seems the only way to prevent him from spinning and running backwards is to make him think doing so would result in a safety.

He needs to replace the spin move with just tuck and run up field or toss it out of bounds. He obviously can sense the pressure on him at that point, and that is a good thing. When he gets that sense they need to get him to tuck it and run or throw it out. There were a few times that he did that in the UCONN game. Needs to do it every time and no more spinning in a panic. That is not going to work.

 

[jwlcosu]

Not looking to pick a fight with you guys and gal, but I do have an observation re: Gardner. Truth of the matter is that he is a lightly experienced college QB. From what I've seen, more last year than this, his mechanics are not unlike Pryor's. That means not great. In the games leading up to OSU game last year, he put up good numbers but I saw a number of off balance heaves that fell into the arms of his receivers. And in the OSU game he looked pretty much like he has this year. It may just be that Michigan fans are asking more and/or expecting more than he is ready to deliver. Despite his longevity with the program, he's nevertheless green in terms of the demands of the position.

 

[TheVictors]

The frustrating part is that Gardner has regressed to being as bad as Pryor. Pryor himself said nobody taught him how to throw until he got to the NFL and seeing him in person last night reinforced the fact that Pryor is not a very good quarterback. Gardner is getting hurried, has lost his confidence and is being coached to play an offense that isn't the run-first spread that Pryor ran in Columbus and Robinson ran the past few years.

 

[Michchamp]

The frustrating part is that Gardner has regressed to being as bad as Pryor. Pryor himself said nobody taught him how to throw until he got to the NFL and seeing him in person last night reinforced the fact that Pryor is not a very good quarterback. Gardner is getting hurried, has lost his confidence and is being coached to play an offense that isn't the run-first spread that Pryor ran in Columbus and Robinson ran the past few years.

watching Pryor get knocked out with a concussion on that qb draw was a brutal reminder of why running qbs don't work in the pros... though you wouldn't know that from the way jaworski and also Michael's gushed about how great he was. when I tuned in the score was 45-17 Denver. go figure

 

[redandguilty]

watching Pryor get knocked out with a concussion on that qb draw was a brutal reminder of why running qbs don't work in the pros... though you wouldn't know that from the way jaworski and also Michael's gushed about how great he was. when I tuned in the score was 45-17 Denver. go figure

Having a QB that can run is great. Relying on it is terrible.