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basically we have 2 choices next year. Sign him long term to reduce his salary. Or pay him 21.4 mil then let him walk cause franchise tag in 2015 would be 25.7 mil lmao. Even when we select a good player we get screwed. Cant cut him next year....itd be an 18 mil hit.
Lions set up '14 verdict on Ndamukong Suh
March, 15, 2013 Mar 1512:00PM ETBy Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com Recommend9 Tweet17 Comments1KEmail Print I try not to saturate you with contract details at this or any other time of year, figuring most of you don't care how much a player makes unless it impacts his future and/or the makeup of the team. This week's contract renegotiation between the Detroit Lions and defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is one such example.
SuhThe bottom line, before we get to the specifics: The Lions likely will find themselves at a crossroads with Suh next year at this time.
As best as I can tell, they will have two choices. They could be at the long-term negotiating table, as they are now with quarterback Matthew Stafford and were last year with receiver Calvin Johnson, to lower an astronomical 2014 salary cap number. Or they could be preparing for Suh's final season with the team.
Here are the details: This week, the Lions reduced Suh's 2013 salary-cap figure from $18.2 million to $10.942 million. They did it by converting most of his base salary to a signing bonus and then pro-rating it over the 2013, '14 and '15 seasons. His 2013 compensation won't change measurably, but the maneuver created about $7.5 million in 2013 cap space for the team.
As we all know, such moves provide only temporary relief. Suh is now projected to carry a $21.412 million cap figure for 2014. That's higher than the number the Lions are currently trying to reduce for Stafford ($20.8 million) through a long-term deal.
Suh's contract technically runs through the 2015 season, but that year is voidable -- meaning he almost certainly would be eligible for free agency after the 2014 season. If the Lions want him to keep him long-term, next offseason is the time to make that happen.
Otherwise, if Suh plays out the 2014 season under his current contract, the NFL's franchise tag rules would dramatically limit the Lions' ability to retain him for 2015 and beyond. NFL rules would assign Suh a franchise tag figure of $25.7 million, far too high for any player and especially a defensive tackle. It would render the tag useless for the Lions and allow Suh to hit the free agent market, much like Buffalo Bills defensive end Mario Williams did last winter.
If the Lions decide they don't want Suh long-term, they probably would have to live with his $21.412 million cap number in 2014. Releasing him before the season would still cost the Lions about $18 million against the 2014 cap, a minimal $3 million savings.
Much could change between now and then, but assuming the Lions still consider Suh a fundamental building block in the winter of 2014, he likely will be rewarded handsomely then as a matter of necessity.
Lions set up '14 verdict on Ndamukong Suh
March, 15, 2013 Mar 1512:00PM ETBy Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com Recommend9 Tweet17 Comments1KEmail Print I try not to saturate you with contract details at this or any other time of year, figuring most of you don't care how much a player makes unless it impacts his future and/or the makeup of the team. This week's contract renegotiation between the Detroit Lions and defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is one such example.
SuhThe bottom line, before we get to the specifics: The Lions likely will find themselves at a crossroads with Suh next year at this time.
As best as I can tell, they will have two choices. They could be at the long-term negotiating table, as they are now with quarterback Matthew Stafford and were last year with receiver Calvin Johnson, to lower an astronomical 2014 salary cap number. Or they could be preparing for Suh's final season with the team.
Here are the details: This week, the Lions reduced Suh's 2013 salary-cap figure from $18.2 million to $10.942 million. They did it by converting most of his base salary to a signing bonus and then pro-rating it over the 2013, '14 and '15 seasons. His 2013 compensation won't change measurably, but the maneuver created about $7.5 million in 2013 cap space for the team.
As we all know, such moves provide only temporary relief. Suh is now projected to carry a $21.412 million cap figure for 2014. That's higher than the number the Lions are currently trying to reduce for Stafford ($20.8 million) through a long-term deal.
Suh's contract technically runs through the 2015 season, but that year is voidable -- meaning he almost certainly would be eligible for free agency after the 2014 season. If the Lions want him to keep him long-term, next offseason is the time to make that happen.
Otherwise, if Suh plays out the 2014 season under his current contract, the NFL's franchise tag rules would dramatically limit the Lions' ability to retain him for 2015 and beyond. NFL rules would assign Suh a franchise tag figure of $25.7 million, far too high for any player and especially a defensive tackle. It would render the tag useless for the Lions and allow Suh to hit the free agent market, much like Buffalo Bills defensive end Mario Williams did last winter.
If the Lions decide they don't want Suh long-term, they probably would have to live with his $21.412 million cap number in 2014. Releasing him before the season would still cost the Lions about $18 million against the 2014 cap, a minimal $3 million savings.
Much could change between now and then, but assuming the Lions still consider Suh a fundamental building block in the winter of 2014, he likely will be rewarded handsomely then as a matter of necessity.
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youre asking a guy to take about 10 mil a year less than what hes making now or hes going to walk. And like slick said....the guy has already restructured in order to help the team with cap relief so he will be going into negitiations figuring we owe him something. Funny how alot of our guys feel that way but end up not getting it....seems to be a trend.
