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GOP senators end run around rules on Mnuchin and Price

Michchamp

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Of all the hearings in the senate so far, these have been the worst.

Anybody else following these? (link to general summary of issue)

Mnuchin is Trump's nominee for treasury (which honestly makes me think fond thoughts about George W Bush's administration) and Tom Price is his nominee for health and human services.

Mnuchin has apparently outright lied to the committee about illegal robo-signing foreclosure practices at OneWest bank... and given his past & current business ties this is even more of a "fox guarding the hen house" situation than it usually is.

Price's corruption & conflict of interest is even more blatant and troubling: he openly lied to the committee about trading stock in a healthcare company based on an insider tip from another congressman, in a private sale not open to the general public.

Rep. Tom Price got a privileged offer to buy a biomedical stock at a discount, the company?s officials said, contrary to his congressional testimony this month.

The Georgia Republican tapped by President Donald Trump to be secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services testified in his Senate confirmation hearings on Jan. 18 and 24 that the discounted shares he bought in Innate Immunotherapeutics Ltd. , an Australian medical biotechnology company, ?were available to every single individual that was an investor at the time.?

In fact, the cabinet nominee was one of fewer than 20 U.S. investors who were invited last year to buy discounted shares of the company?an opportunity that, for Mr. Price, arose from an invitation from a company director and fellow congressmen.​
(link from DailyKos, but the WSJ has reported the same thing)

the "end run" is that Democrats had been refusing to vote on either guy until they at least came clean to the committee, and existing rules require a quorom including at least one member of the other party in a committee before voting on a nominee, but senate Republicans just said "fuck that, 'rules' are for losers" and voted to ram each Of these LIARS through.

sounds like there is some Senate GOP opposition to DeVos, meaning she may not be confirmed in a full senate vote, but not to these two clowns. awful.

if it came down to straight party voting, every Trump candidate would be approved (GOP controls senate 52-48). if two GOP senators switch votes, then Pence is the tiebreaker, so realistically the Democrats need three GOP senators to break ranks in order to win a vote. and that's assuming the Democrats can stick together, and you don't lose DINOs like Joe Manchin.
 
What'd you expect them to do? No dem Senators not even showing up? They just did the same for Pruitt this morning. Is this what Washington has come to? Before all this they only had 2 Cabinet members approved. Laughable.
 
What's laughable is the petro-billionaire cabinet picks in which most want to gut thier prospective agencies. There are at least 5 who are not even close to qualified Mitch. Democrats doing only thing they can to try and stand up to this Tyrant in the oval office. Sadly the Trump fascism is on the ground and running .. I never thought America would elected a dictator.
 
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What's laughable is the petro-billionaire cabinet picks in which most want to gut thier prospective agencies. There are at least 5 who are not even close to qualified Mitch. Democrats doing only thing they can to try and stand up to this Tyrant in the oval office. Sadly the Trump fascism is on the ground and running .. I never thought America would elected a dictator.

Then show up, and vote no. Try to get someone to switch. I don't get why not showing up helps anything.. The not qualified candidates are your opinion, someone who wouldn't like a Republican for nothing.. Many people think they're very qualified. Regardless argue the point don't just not show up. It doesn't help anyone..
 
Then show up, and vote no. Try to get someone to switch. I don't get why not showing up helps anything.. The not qualified candidates are your opinion, someone who wouldn't like a Republican for nothing.. Many people think they're very qualified. Regardless argue the point don't just not show up. It doesn't help anyone..

Not true at all. Give us a decent choice and I will approve of them . The Democrats let pentagon picks through with no problem. I hope Mattis will stick up to Trump. Mike Pompao is ok. But come on Devos, Price, Carson, Tillerson who has experience but the head of ExxonMobil come on lol.. Rick Perry is laughable how dumb he is.Scott Pruitt hates the epa.. plus there is more .so yeah I have concerns with his cabinet for donations picks !!
 
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What'd you expect them to do? No dem Senators not even showing up? They just did the same for Pruitt this morning. Is this what Washington has come to? Before all this they only had 2 Cabinet members approved. Laughable.

What do I expect them to do? Maybe not rubber stamp Trump appointees who have no disregard for the public interest, and who openly lie to the committee?

Is that too "partisan"?
 
What do I expect them to do? Maybe not rubber stamp Trump appointees who have no disregard for the public interest, and who openly lie to the committee?

Is that too "partisan"?

I don't have a problem with not liking an appointee, or grilling them - or voting no. This is just about not even showing up.. I suspect it does no good. They weren't elected to sit on their hands.

I should point out, I wasn't a Trump supporter initially, didn't like the Tillerson pick and were iffy on some others. And I haven't seen any rubber-stamp at all.. Just posturing. Dem cabinet members of the past weren't all golden.
 
I don't have a problem with not liking an appointee, or grilling them - or voting no. This is just about not even showing up.. I suspect it does no good. They weren't elected to sit on their hands.

I should point out, I wasn't a Trump supporter initially, didn't like the Tillerson pick and were iffy on some others. And I haven't seen any rubber-stamp at all.. Just posturing. Dem cabinet members of the past weren't all golden.

Please research some of these picks Mitch. Because in the end only about 10-20% of Steven Bannon's Picks are worth of even getting a vote.
 
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