Helpful reminder: you are much more likely to be killed by police than terrorists

[Michchamp]

In the last week, American police officers killed at least 23 people nationwide. From May 1, 2013 to the end of this August, that included a whopping 1,450 Americans.

some of these shootings may be justified, but many are not, and regardless, the number of people killed by terrorists in the US in the last decade is ZERO. and as some recent incidents have shown, there will be no consequences for shootings that appear to be completely unjustified, unless federal authorities get involved.

 

[byco42]

It's not because the bad guys are not trying

 

[Gulo Blue]

Helpful reminder: too many calories and too much sitting on your butt are far more likely to kill you than terrorists or police officers.

 

[Thumb]

So to recap; in terms of chances of killing you, Fat and Lazy > Police > Terrorists.

Any idea where chemtrails fit in?

 

[Michchamp]

It's not because the bad guys are not trying

LOL. I remember a lot of those. a couple were probably legit, like the Richard Reid one, or the other airline bombing that ended in Detroit. Not sure how likely they would've been to succeed in either case, but WOW! Scary! Suspend habeus corpus and the Bill of Rights.

More typically the FBI paid some informant to goad some local loser into saying he'd bomb a shopping mall or whatever landmark was big in his city, and they pounced on him once he took enough affirmative acts toward what he thinks is the attack to provide evidence for a conviction.

prior to the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act here, that was called entrapment... and people laughed at it. no one took it seriously.

 

[Gulo Blue]

We should pass a Food Patriot Act. Give the government the right to inspect our pantries and raid McDonald's without a warrant. Save more lives that way by a longshot. Healthcare costs would plummet.

 

[byco42]

LOL. I remember a lot of those. a couple were probably legit, like the Richard Reid one, or the other airline bombing that ended in Detroit. Not sure how likely they would've been to succeed in either case, but WOW! Scary! Suspend habeus corpus and the Bill of Rights.

More typically the FBI paid some informant to goad some local loser into saying he'd bomb a shopping mall or whatever landmark was big in his city, and they pounced on him once he took enough affirmative acts toward what he thinks is the attack to provide evidence for a conviction.

prior to the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act here, that was called entrapment... and people laughed at it. no one took it seriously.

I don't see many that read the way you interpret it. You want to minimize a workplace beheading in the name of Allah, so be it. I can state with some certainty that this would not have been your rejoinder had you reacted instead to a "anti-abortion Catholic" shooting a doctor who worked at an abortion mill. You'd skewer the guy and lump all the rest of us in with him. And declare with alarm: "these people vote!"

 

[Thumb]

You want to minimize a workplace beheading in the name of Allah, so be it.

You have a source that says it was in the name of Allah? And not just some mentally unstable guy who happened to be Muslim?

You are jumping to a giant conclusion there, most likely the media will push that angle as well because it will make it a more sensational story.

The whole "when you hear hoofbeats think horses" idea does not always pass the test.

 

[tinselwolverine]

You have a source that says it was in the name of Allah? And not just some mentally unstable guy who happened to be Muslim?

You are jumping to a giant conclusion there, most likely the media will push that angle as well because it will make it a more sensational story.

The whole "when you hear hoofbeats think horses" idea does not always pass the test.

Well, even if the nutjob domestic psychopath thought he was bringing himself closer to ISIL (which we still don't know), that doesn't differentiate him in dangerousness from the any other domestic nutjob mass killer psychopath, as I so poignantly point out in my review of jwlcosu's sequel to motherfuckers (which by the way has debuted as a complete bomb at the box office)

In fact, this cocksucker was so impotent that he only managed to kill one before being subdued.

This makes me view ISIL as vastly less of a threat than your typical garden variety local American lunatic mass murdering psychopath, who has no relationship with Islam yet nevertheless has caused more mayhem by far than this limp dicked towel headed wanna be jackoff.

 

[byco42]

You have a source that says it was in the name of Allah? And not just some mentally unstable guy who happened to be Muslim?

You are jumping to a giant conclusion there, most likely the media will push that angle as well because it will make it a more sensational story.

The whole "when you hear hoofbeats think horses" idea does not always pass the test.

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[tinselwolverine]

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At least hopefully the employer who shot him after firing him from his job isn't going to have to face a discrimination lawsuit.

Because this country really fucks over the little guy who creates jobs, trying to live the American dream.

 

[Monster]

Wow, this guy should have been on every terrorist watch list out there. Religious fucking nutjob.

 

[Thumb]

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And??? This is basically the same article that the *ohio guy posted, it says nothing about why he did anything.

Again, because the article mentions him becoming a Muslim, and trying to convert others to Islam, that does not mean he beheaded anyone in the name of his religion any more than any crime commited by a christian, jew, hindu, etc. proves they did it for their god.

The guy converted to Islam while in prison, so he was already a criminal, but a single mention of ISLAM, and you guys have it all figured out.

Further this article goes on to mention there is absolutely NOTHING tying him to ISIS/ISIL or any fundamentalist/terrorist group.

So, my point stands.

 

[Monster]

And??? This is basically the same article that the *ohio guy posted, it says nothing about why he did anything.

Again, because the article mentions him becoming a Muslim, and trying to convert others to Islam, that does not mean he beheaded anyone in the name of his religion any more than any crime commited by a christian, jew, hindu, etc. proves they did it for their god.

The guy converted to Islam while in prison, so he was already a criminal, but a single mention of ISLAM, and you guys have it all figured out.

Further this article goes on to mention there is absolutely NOTHING tying him to ISIS/ISIL or any fundamentalist/terrorist group.

So, my point stands.

Nothing tying him to any terrorist group. But his facebook reads like a terrorist. Constant cries for Jihad and calling America evil and saluting Bin Laden.

Also not sure if he did what he did because of his muslim faith, but considering ISIS has been beheading nonbelievers and enemies, it seems pretty clear he was inspired by ISIS.

So to answer the idea of the act being inspired by Allah - No, I don't think it was. He's had a long history of violence and he probably would have done this without his faith. However, the manner in which he did it was inspired by Allah, in part, via ISIS.

 

[tinselwolverine]

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"Moore, south of Oklahoma City, was the scene of a monster tornado last year that flattened parts of the town and killed two dozen people."

Whoa...I remember this...this is trippy.

Isn't this the one where Wolf Blitzer asked the woman if she was asking God for help, and she answered "I'm an atheist...?"

EDIT: It is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LP3Zs_V_BQ

 

[Michchamp]

appropo of all the hysteria lately from Republitards... thought I'd bump this thread.

I saw somewhere else that since 9/11 more American citizens have still been killed by right-wing terrorists in the US than islamic ones. and in either case, the threat is miniscule, dwarfed by gun deaths generally, and yes, the 500-1000 Americans killed by cops every year. not really sure about the exact number in the latter case because law enforcement has successfully opposed official efforts to document it, and citizen efforts this year suggest the number has been consistently underreported by the FBI.

 

[Michchamp]

also: STFU about terrorism, you little scared rabbits.

 

[tomdalton22]

I see you bumped this thread and it caught my eye. I would say you not accurate with your original post. I am not more likely to be killed by the police than by terrorists.

 

[Michchamp]

I see you bumped this thread and it caught my eye. I would say you not accurate with your original post. I am not more likely to be killed by the police than by terrorists.

eh... you personally are more likely to be killed by a brain aneurysm while trying to understand math than by police or terrorists.

leave the thinking on this one to other people.

 

[tomdalton22]

eh... you personally are more likely to be killed by a brain aneurysm while trying to understand math than by police or terrorists.

leave the thinking on this one to other people.

well, as a white male, who lives in a suburb and with no criminal history...there is no way it is more likely that I am killed by the police than a terrorist. My guess is that every single person that posts here is in a similar situation that I am in. I will also guess that the vast majority of the people that are killed by police have a criminal record of some sort. I am not saying that they deserve to be killed, but most put themselves into situations that make it more likely that they are going to get into some sort of confrontation with the police.