Hoke on Gardner

[josh200612]

"I'd say beat up". "If that's an injury, then that's an injury".

How about you shut the fuck up and get someone to block for him or make some fucking adjustments during the game. I would give up too after that ass beating since everyone gave up and didn't give a fuck. Fuck this team and the coaches. Pathetic.

 

[biggunsbob]

What did coatless say about Borges?

 

[josh200612]

Alright I just watched a little of the presser and this mother fucker said he was satisfied with the game plan! LOL WTF?! He never gives up! Always has to be right! Never wrong! Never a failure! Just admit you fucked up one time man! GEEZ!

 

[lostleader]

Hoke at one time took more blame. I don't see him beating up his OC after a game in public.

 

[cmrlily]

Other than a few plays during the first drive and Gardner's last drive, I couldn't tell you what the game plan was because our O-line didn't allow us to see it. For that reason, I can't really blame this one on Borges, at least not from a strategic perspective (i.e., the "game plan").

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Other than a few plays during the first drive and Gardner's last drive, I couldn't tell you what the game plan was because our O-line didn't allow us to see it. For that reason, I can't really blame this one on Borges, at least not from a strategic perspective (i.e., the "game plan").

But he did not adjust for the 2nd half. They blitzed all day and he still called nothing but long developing plays. Hurried and sacked all day. How many times did they have Devin roll out? I think I saw 2 plays total and his receivers had plenty of time to get open. Bamf rewatches the game all the time and goes through the plays. Maybe he can tell us.

 

[byco42]

But he did not adjust for the 2nd half. They blitzed all day and he still called nothing but long developing plays. Hurried and sacked all day. How many times did they have Devin roll out? I think I saw 2 plays total and his receivers had plenty of time to get open. Bamf rewatches the game all the time and goes through the plays. Maybe he can tell us.

That's not the 2nd half I saw. I saw a reincarnation of the RR spread. Including roll outs.

 

[rumseyhouse77]

Borges had two weeks to prepare and he brought in a game plan of slow developing running plays? Did Borges watch any film on the sparty D? I saw maybe two series in the second half where they threw short passes. Most of those were incomplete. It looked as if they hadn't practiced those at all when those kinds of plays should have been the core of the plan. Two weeks to plan and the game plan was what? At this point, after two years of this sort of thing I have no confidence in Borges. None. I think DG also lost confidence by the end of this game. I don't think he was injured, I think he was frustrated and just gave up. Time for a change. Borges MUST go.

 

[bamf_16]

Other than a few plays during the first drive and Gardner's last drive, I couldn't tell you what the game plan was because our O-line didn't allow us to see it. For that reason, I can't really blame this one on Borges, at least not from a strategic perspective (i.e., the "game plan").

Absolutely wrong. The game plan was to try plays that had no chance of success because they asked the UM kids to do what they can't do, hold blocks for long periods of time to allow slow developing plays to develop. Basically, what you see in the first 20 minutes of play is the "game plan." The last 10 minutes of the first half, you see the beginning of the adjustment period. The third quarter is where you see the "adjustments."

Where I agree with you is to an extent, the second half saw some good adjustments, but the execution wasn't there. Gardner missed Gallon open on a slant. Funchess couldn't come down the ball on an out route at the UM 20. They tried the quick catch in the shotgun and throw immediately to the TE running 4 yards down the seam. The problem? Those should have been calls made at the OUTSET of the game to try to keep the MSU pass rush at bay. He simply waited too long to go to those plays.

 

[Michchamp]

it did seem like repeatedly on the play action pass, after the fake Gardner would still be holding the ball when on every other team I've ever watched, he'd already have thrown it.

get ball -> fake handoff -> throw.

yesterday it was like:

get ball -> fake handoff -> nothing -> nothing -> sack or thrown out-of-bounds

 

[bamf_16]

Last night, when Miami started dialing up blitzes, did anyone see FSU call the screen that went for 50 yards or so and a TD?

Man, a screen against the blitz. Who knew?

 

[jever4321]

I think it's pretty clear that UM is experiencing the growing pains of the new coaching style/system/scheme change "post Denard" this year.

 

[hungry]

Short passing plays all game long or until something else opens up

Instead, we got runs into the line and DG dropping back to throw long and getting sacked

I remember 1 rollout, it was incomplete to open receiver. Guess it didn't work, so they went away from it

 

[MasterfulMindofMitch]

Other than a few plays during the first drive and Gardner's last drive, I couldn't tell you what the game plan was because our O-line didn't allow us to see it. For that reason, I can't really blame this one on Borges, at least not from a strategic perspective (i.e., the "game plan").

I thought this too until I looked at the stats. Was Borges' game plan to only give Fitz 8 rushing attempts? I don't understand why Fitz wasn't given more of an opportunity to run the ball more.

 

[motown1958]

You want to counter act the blitz and a bad oline. You call freaking screen passes. I would screen all day and then run some high low routes. This would slow that pass rush down plus Gardner is athletic giving them the chance to set a good screen. He refuses to run screen and get some of our athletes in space. Borges is a joke of a coordinator and I am sick of watching this offense be worthless. The oline sucks so help it out. what an embarrassment.

 

[jever4321]

I saw the screen play get totally blown up yesterday... Nothing worked... Nothing was going to work... That game couldn't finish fast enough for this coaching staff...

 

[hungry]

They called one throwback screen. It didn't work, so Borges went back to 5 step drop and deep routes...

 

[rumseyhouse77]

They called one throwback screen. It didn't work, so Borges went back to 5 step drop and deep routes...

And the drop back and deep routes was working? It didn't look like they had put much time into practicing the screen play or quick passing game. They should have been spending the two weeks they had practicing and developing the short pass/screen game plan. I think it was obvious that the offense was not ready to play this game and given two weeks to prepare that is unacceptable. Given their performance prior to this game the O and OC should not have taken any time off during the bye.

 

[b311j]

I thought this too until I looked at the stats. Was Borges' game plan to only give Fitz 8 rushing attempts? I don't understand why Fitz wasn't given more of an opportunity to run the ball more.

Other than the fact he has had horrible vision all year continually missing wide open running lanes?

And after this past game he has proved what a horrible blocker he is. What can Green, Rawls, etc be doing or not doing in practice to not pass Shitz on the depth chart?

 

[thewolverines24]

Other than the fact he has had horrible vision all year continually missing wide open running lanes?

And after this past game he has proved what a horrible blocker he is. What can Green, Rawls, etc be doing or not doing in practice to not pass Shitz on the depth chart?

I am truly at a loss trying to figure out how they could possibly be worse than Fitz.