Welcome to Detroit Sports Forum!

By joining our community, you'll be able to connect with fellow fans that live and breathe Detroit sports just like you!

Get Started
  • If you are no longer able to access your account since our recent switch from vBulletin to XenForo, you may need to reset your password via email. If you no longer have access to the email attached to your account, please fill out our contact form and we will assist you ASAP. Thanks for your continued support of DSF.

How many Lions could've started last night?

skewed ofcourse by the number of targets and catches cause we are the dump down champions of the NFL and threw the ball almost 800 times. That's like LKPs argument that a 700 yard WR is good when we throw for 5000 yards a year. I like Pettigrew....he'll be an important piece if were ever good again. But as far as value goes....I just don't think hes provided 1st round type value. If were never going to run the ball with consistency than id much rather have a aaron hernandez type which obviously could be had much later in the draft. The middle of the field is very important in todays passing game and a dynamic tight end can run a lot of routes that would be huge in our offense....Pettigrew just isn't that dynamic of a route runner. He clogs up the middle of the field and just sits in a window as a dump down.

You're right. That's exactly what Pettigrew is. He clogs the middle up and gets the dumpoffs from Staff. Like Slick said, a "security blanket" for Stafford. He is also one of the best blocking TEs in the NFL.That doesn't mean our running game becomes top 10 in the league like most of you guys want to believe.

Pettigrew isn't the issue here. Time to fn move on...
 
New coach think Pett can turn out to be like Mercedes Lewis.....AWESOME!!!!!!

Bobby Johnson believes he can help elevate Brandon Pettigrew to elite status
Posted Feb 8, 2013

Tim Twentyman
Lead Writer

Follow Tim on Twitter Follow Tim on Google+
aaWith a foundation based in fundamentals, new tight ends coach Bobby Johnson is looking forward to working with Brandon Pettigrew
New tight ends coach Bobby Johnson spent last season as the tight ends coach in Jacksonville and got to see firsthand what a Pro Bowl-caliber tight end looks like in Mercedes Lewis.

Lewis was a Pro Bowler in 2010, recording 10 touchdowns, and has been amongst the best tight ends in the league the last few seasons.

When Johnson accepted the same position with Detroit and began looking at the cut-ups from Brandon Pettigrew's 2012 season, the first thing he thought of was Lewis.

"He has a lot of similar qualities as Mercedes Lewis," Johnson told Detroitlions.com of Pettigrew.

"Mercedes, in my opinion, is one of the best tight ends in the league and they have a lot of similarities. I think their skill sets are similar. They are both very big, long tight ends, but they have some mass to them that allows them to have some blocking ability.

"I think Brandon, just looking at him from what I've been watching on film, maybe has a little bit more ability in the intermediate routes. He has a little bit more redirect ability or change-of-direction ability. I just think my experience with Mercedes this past year will help me help him."

Lions fans have been waiting for Pettigrew to take that next step and join the elite class of NFL tight ends. It simply hasn't happened yet.

Pettigrew has been a very good weapon for the Lions since they drafted him with the 20th-overall pick in 2009. He's amassed 243 catches for 2,412 yards and 14 touchdowns in 57 games.

He was among tight end leaders in catches and yards in 2010 and 2011. The 2012 season was supposed to be his breakout year coming off an 83-catch performance in 2011, but it simply didn't materialize.

Instead, Pettigrew had two key fumbles in losses at Tennessee and vs. Houston, recorded eight drops in 102 targets, according to Stats LLC, and missed two games late in the season because of an ankle injury.

He finished with a respectable 59 catches for 567 yards and three touchdowns, but in all, it was probably a season he'd like to forget.

Johnson comes to Detroit to take over coaching the tight ends for Tim Lappano, who's been moved over to coach the receivers. Sometimes when a new coach - with a few new ideas and a different philosophy - is brought into the fold, it can make all the difference for a player like Pettigrew.

Johnson's approach to coaching is simple: fundamentals.

"I believe you have to teach fundamentals," he said. "I don't care what level you're coaching at. The things that you teach Pop Warner kids to play the game, I think you still have to teach those to NFL players.

"You don't have to be as drawn out in your explanation, or as deliberate, but I think you still have to spend time on them because I think those are things you can get away from and they'll end up costing you.

"I also believe when I'm teaching fundamentals to make whatever drill or whatever situation you're setting up to be as game-like and as difficult as possible. My philosophy has always been ... I want to put that player in a controlled drill or situation that is potentially the most difficult situation they can find themselves in.

"That way, when they see that difficult situation again it's a repetition thing; 'I've been in this. I know what's going to happen.'"

Johnson said he also likes the prospect of working with Tony Scheffler, who's been both a tight end and a receiver for the Lions over the years.

"I really like his skillset," he said of Scheffler. "I remember when he was at Western Michigan. I'm a Mid-American Conference guy, I played in the MAC and coached in the MAC for a long time, and I'm excited about his skillset because a guy like that brings a lot of multiplicity to the offense.

"Defensive coaches look and see that guy coming in and they're not quite sure if he's going to be an outside receiver or a slot receiver, have his hand in the dirt or be an in-line tight end. He can create a lot of strain for a defense and I'm excited about it."

More than anything else, Johnson said his job is to take players like Pettigrew and Scheffler and help them take the next step.

"I get enjoyment out of guys progressing and getting better and reaching their goals," he said. "It'll be one of the first conversations I have with each guy. I'll ask them, 'Where do you want to go? I want to find a way to help you get there.'"
 
Well he's not as good as Mercedes Lewis, but he can get there with a lot of hard work. I like the attitude we need to bring in more guys like this as position coaches. Matt Stafford could be as good as Rick Mirer. Reilly Reiff can be as good as Tony Mandarich. Realistic goals.
 
Back
Top