I guess we lost the Afghanistan War

[tigermud]

20 years later we still don?t have the whole truth and nothing but the truth and it?s likely we never will.

https://banned.video/watch?id=613cea5badf8ab1d31c68343

 

[byco42]

20 years later we still don?t have the whole truth and nothing but the truth and it?s likely we never will.

https://banned.video/watch?id=613cea5badf8ab1d31c68343

This website has been around for a long time. link

This was The Corbett Report's initial podcast in 2007. Link

There are many more on his website.

 

[Spartanmack]

I put a lot less stock in what the FBI says than you do.

Shit, you were even all up in arms about the FBI's actions in Michigan, but here I guess since they're telling you a Muslim guy is bad, you swallow the KoolAid...

I keep forgetting you either have to agree or disagree with everything a person or organization says or does. Because people or entities, especially ones as big as the FBI either get everything right or everything wrong. You can't like or agree with something someone does or says if you generally dislike or disagree with most of what they do or say - that's just no allowed. You must always either criticize or always defend - it's too difficult to approach cases independently and critical thinking is not allowed.

As it turns out, you don't need to rely on the FBI on this one. The guy has openly admitted to planning deadly terrorist attacks in Kabul and an assassination attempt on Karzai when he was President of Afghanistan. So maybe "the FBI always gets it wrong" doesn't really work. Yes, I think what they did in Michigan was entrapment, but I also think a guy who admits to murdering innocents in a campaign of terror legitimately belongs on a most wanted list.

Sort of like with raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. One must choose.

 

[Spartanmack]

I think you meant to quote me rather than edit my post, which by the way is a pretty amazing power. Must be nice to be a mod! Since it's still my post I was unable to like it, but I see what you did there.

And you're right, you must choose one way or the other. Could you imagine a world where people liked or agreed with some but not all things a person or organization did or said? Or God forbid, had more than 1 favorite thing? What's next you ask? Well, as anyone who has seen Ghostbusters knows, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...mass hysteria!!!!

 

[tigermud]

Looks like we?re back to botched drone strikes killing innocent civilians again.

Buck Fiden is a total fucking disaster

 

[Spartanmack]

Finally, stability from the "professional and business like" Taliban...I'm sure the people of Afghanistan appreciate the stability. I've often thought, 'you know what Central Jersey needs? More stabilizing and unifying public displays of people murdered by the government.' Maybe some day.

 

[Michchamp]

Finally, stability from the "professional and business like" Taliban...I'm sure the people of Afghanistan appreciate the stability. I've often thought, 'you know what Central Jersey needs? More stabilizing and unifying public displays of people murdered by the government.' Maybe some day.

When are you going to enlist?

 

[Spartanmack]

Update: Under Taliban rule, Afghanistan is so stable, people are selling their underaged daughters so the rest of their family doesn't starve.

this stability was probably brought on by moves like this one. I mean if beheading a girl for playing sports doesn't bring about stability, what will?

 

[Michchamp]

Update: Under Taliban rule, Afghanistan is so stable, people are selling their underaged daughters so the rest of their family doesn't starve.

this stability was probably brought on by moves like this one. I mean if beheading a girl for playing sports doesn't bring about stability, what will?

Oh yikes. I was totally wrong about Afghanistan.

we should go back to spending $500 MILLION a day to occupy Kabul & Bagram, carelessly handout money to local warlords, much of which ends up with the Taliban anyway, and occasionally launch a drone strike at a school or wedding party, for another 20 years. got it.

 

[Spartanmack]

Oh yikes. I was totally wrong about Afghanistan.

we should go back to spending $500 MILLION a day to occupy Kabul & Bagram, carelessly handout money to local warlords, much of which ends up with the Taliban anyway, and occasionally launch a drone strike at a school or wedding party, for another 20 years. got it.

 

[Spartanmack]

No more pencils, no more books, No more teachers, dirty looks,

Schools out for...women

Thank goodness for the stability though, ammiright?

 

[Michchamp]

One aspect of our 20 year occupation of Afghanistan that is tacitly ignored in our media is that fact that opium production exploded during that time. It had been suppressed under the Taliban.

now the Taliban have cracked down on it again (link):

The Taliban decree wasn't applied to the 2022 opium harvest, which according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) increased by a third over 2021.

This year though, is very different. The evidence we saw on the ground is backed up by imagery taken from above. David Mansfield, a leading expert on Afghanistan's drugs trade, is working with Alcis - a UK firm which specialises in satellite analysis. "It is likely that cultivation will be less than 20% of what it was in 2022. The scale of the reduction will be unprecedented," he says.

A large number of farmers have complied with the ban, and Taliban fighters have been destroying the crops of those that haven't.

Toor Khan, the commander of the Taliban patrol unit we are with in Nangarhar, tells us he and his men have been destroying poppy fields for nearly five months, and have cleared tens of thousands of hectares of the crop.

"You're destroying my field, God destroy your home," one woman shouts angrily at the Taliban unit as they raze her poppy field.

"I'd told you this morning to destroy it yourself. You didn't, so now I have to," Toor Khan screams back. She retreats indoors.

Her son is detained by the Taliban, released with a warning a few hours later.​

 

[Spartanmack]

Thank goodness for the stability. Now if we can just secure our border to stop the flow of fentanyl that will take the place of the heroine. Maybe we can get the Taliban to take over our border security?

 

[Michchamp]

Thank goodness for the stability. Now if we can just secure our border to stop the flow of fentanyl that will take the place of the heroine. Maybe we can get the Taliban to take over our border security?

Wow. Does cramming every bit of news that comes out into your existing political views get exhausting, or does it just come naturally to you?

 

[byco42]

It's a war that was lost before it was fought. It was never meant to be won. Those who perpetrated it are the basest form of human beings, who care nothing for the people who were and are affected by it.