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Get Startedsmayschmouthfootball said:Context is everything: This is solely in regards to the "born alive" bill that Obama opposed in the state legislature. Gingrich didn't exactly get the facts right on that one, but Obama did vote against it, partially because it would give babies who survived an abortion legal status.
But, on the other hand, what is abortion?
cheeno said:smayschmouthfootball said:Context is everything: This is solely in regards to the "born alive" bill that Obama opposed in the state legislature. Gingrich didn't exactly get the facts right on that one, but Obama did vote against it, partially because it would give babies who survived an abortion legal status.
But, on the other hand, what is abortion?
Abortion is infanticide to people who can't make a distinction between a cluster of cells that can develop the capacity for autonomous life from an actual living breathing baby. Mostly religious nuts like yourself.
smayschmouthfootball said:But, on the other hand, what is abortion?
cheeno said:smayschmouthfootball said:Context is everything: This is solely in regards to the "born alive" bill that Obama opposed in the state legislature. Gingrich didn't exactly get the facts right on that one, but Obama did vote against it, partially because it would give babies who survived an abortion legal status.
But, on the other hand, what is abortion?
Abortion is infanticide to people who can't make a distinction between a cluster of cells that can develop the capacity for autonomous life from an actual living breathing baby. Mostly religious nuts like yourself.
Red and Guilty said:cheeno said:Abortion is infanticide to people who can't make a distinction between a cluster of cells that can develop the capacity for autonomous life from an actual living breathing baby. Mostly religious nuts like yourself.
OK then. Make the distinction. Where's the cut off between the two.
cheeno said:Red and Guilty said:OK then. Make the distinction. Where's the cut off between the two.
I'd prefer not to make this into a zillion page thread debating abortion. We can. But to equate abortion with infanticide is something all but the most religious of nut jobs would do without distinction. The OP was pointing out the ridiculousness of Repubs playing to a base that is so narrow that it makes them all but electable...so in that respect i'll try not to derail this thread and stick to the topic.
Do you see any problem in an official that wants to get elected to the office of president calling pro choicers 'baby killers'?
SLICK said:According to Noot....if you are Pro Choice......you are an extremist who condones Infanticide.
lol.....the hits just keep on coming from these clowns.
[color=#551A8B said:TinselWolverine[/color]]
SLICK said:According to Noot....if you are Pro Choice......you are an extremist who condones Infanticide.
lol.....the hits just keep on coming from these clowns.
Rowe vs. Wade protected the rights of states to make laws prohibiting abortions after the first trimester.
Many, many pro-choice voters have no problem with this.
In fact, many pro-choice voters have a problem with abortions after the first trimester.
Additionally, many pro-choice voters have a problem with what Gingrich was describing, that Obama supported as a State Senator in Illinois.
cheeno said:smayschmouthfootball said:But, on the other hand, what is abortion?
You mean here? In the general terms you were implying?
MI_Thumb said:This is just another issue where their is a double standard.
A conservative will call a liberal a babykiller if they are pro-choice, but get upset and say it's not that black-and-white when a liberal calls them supporters of cop killers because of their stance on assault weapons bans.
The knife cuts both ways, and they done even see it.
Using a blanket statement on anyone shows an overall lack of intelligence, I'm not surprised Noot falls into this category.
Red and Guilty said:[quote="MI_Thumb":z5iyrrrq]This is just another issue where their is a double standard.
A conservative will call a liberal a babykiller if they are pro-choice, but get upset and say it's not that black-and-white when a liberal calls them supporters of cop killers because of their stance on assault weapons bans.
The knife cuts both ways, and they done even see it.
Using a blanket statement on anyone shows an overall lack of intelligence, I'm not surprised Noot falls into this category.
[color=#551A8B said:TinselWolverine[/color]]
[quote="TinselWolverine":6zjj6g7h]
Rowe vs. Wade protected the rights of states to make laws prohibiting abortions after the first trimester.
Many, many pro-choice voters have no problem with this.
In fact, many pro-choice voters have a problem with abortions after the first trimester.
Additionally, many pro-choice voters have a problem with what Gingrich was describing, that Obama supported as a State Senator in Illinois.
smayschmouthfootball said:cheeno said:You mean here? In the general terms you were implying?
The question is the easy to answer. It's the active, willful termination of a human being, whose life begins at conception. People mollify the act with the justification that there is some distinction between cells and a person when there isn't one. That lack of awareness of self somehow means the self is non-existent. But the reality is that neonates are every much a person as is the octogenarian.
MI_Thumb said:[quote="Red and Guilty":nmk9xepw]
Is that what this thread is about? I thought it was about Newt talking about Obama. Not a blanket thing. Slick worded it like a blanket thing, but that's not what happened, is it?
smayschmouthfootball said:cheeno said:You mean here? In the general terms you were implying?
The question is the easy to answer. It's the active, willful termination of a human being, whose life begins at conception. People mollify the act with the justification that there is some distinction between cells and a person when there isn't one. That lack of awareness of self somehow means the self is non-existent. But the reality is that neonates are every much a person as is the octogenarian.
[color=#551A8B said:TinselWolverine[/color]]"Nothing in this Section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this Section."
Ha, ha.
I don't know why, but something about the wording here stikes me as being a little bit funny.
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