Investments vs. entitlements

[redandguilty]

http://issuu.com/thirdway/docs/third_way_report_-_collision_course_why_democrats_/1

Interesting plots. Looks like it was written by moderate dems. Seems believable at 1st glance.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Investment = When a millionaire takes a $77,000 tax deduction on a dancing horse and then the US taxpayer pays for them to take their horse to England, to dance.

Entitlement: When school children get a ham sandwich and an apple to sate their hunger.

 

[Monster]

Investment = When a millionaire takes a $77,000 tax deduction on a dancing horse and then the US taxpayer pays for them to take their horse to England, to dance.

Entitlement: When school children get a ham sandwich and an apple to sate their hunger.

makes sense. >

 

[tinselwolverine]

There are those who would argue that "entitlements" are actually "investments" in preventing poor people from going and killing rich people, and taking their property, like what happenened in Russia right around a century or so ago.

 

[tsmith7559]

There are those who would argue that "entitlements" are actually "investments" in preventing poor people from going and killing rich people, and taking their property, like what happenened in Russia right around a century or so ago.

more entitlements = more poor people

 

[Michchamp]

more accurate:

Investment - government handout to corporation that donated money to my political campaign or that gave a high-paying, do nothing job to my spouse or other family member. See, e.g. Halliburton paying Dick Cheney a $20 million "bonus" before he entered the White House, and receiving in return billions of dollars. The billions to Halliburton qualify as an "investment"

entitlement - something some poor/unlucky/injured/disabled person receives and that is too poor to contribute to political campaigns or hire a lobbyist in DC, and therefore is on the chopping block, see, e.g. subsidized (not even free) school lunches to children born to poor parents.

 

[tsmith7559]

more accurate:

Investment - government handout to corporation that donated money to my political campaign or that gave a high-paying, do nothing job to my spouse or other family member. See, e.g. Halliburton paying Dick Cheney a $20 million "bonus" before he entered the White House, and receiving in return billions of dollars. The billions to Halliburton qualify as an "investment"

entitlement - something some poor/unlucky/injured/disabled person receives and that is too poor to contribute to political campaigns or hire a lobbyist in DC, and therefore is on the chopping block, see, e.g. subsidized (not even free) school lunches to children born to poor parents.

Hallliburton provided a unique service, probably them and Bechtel could have done the job, no one else. Halliburton has an "open" contract that Bill Clinton also utilized

 

[Michchamp]

bullshit. pay any company enough and they can provide the same "services" Halliburton did in Iraq. It was nothing the avg. construction contractor couldn't handle: go out and hire subcontractors to do work.

 

[tsmith7559]

bullshit. pay any company enough and they can provide the same "services" Halliburton did in Iraq. It was nothing the avg. construction contractor couldn't handle: go out and hire subcontractors to do work.

well, you're wrong. halliburton handles many things and in the time of war we dont have time to go out for bids......bechtel is another option, but like i said Clinton used halliburton on no bid contract for bosnia

 

[Michchamp]

well, you're wrong. halliburton handles many things and in the time of war we dont have time to go out for bids......

except we did in every other war we fought, ones we won, and ones that didn't drag on for years and years at some unfathomable cost far in excess of the day to day expense of all our prior wars as these sleazy politically connected defense contractors didn't suck the blood out of US taxpayers with the blessing of our elected officials.

 

[KAWDUP]

except we did in every other war we fought, ones we won, and ones that didn't drag on for years and years at some unfathomable cost far in excess of the day to day expense of all our prior wars as these sleazy politically connected defense contractors didn't suck the blood out of US taxpayers with the blessing of our elected officials.

I'm thinking you're a True Blood fan - possible?. Anyway, I seem to have most of my blood. My money on the other hand, is being taxed to death by all those blood-suckers. :*)

 

[Michchamp]

True Blood? what's that?

 

[KAWDUP]

True Blood? what's that?

HBO series about blood sucking vampires. Seemed to make sense based on your comment.

. . . or it was just a bad joke?

 

[Michchamp]

HBO series about blood sucking vampires. Seemed to make sense based on your comment.

. . . or it was just a bad joke?

oh. wow, there are a few series about vampires out then. wasn't that one "Twilight" more popular? Kids today are so dumb... like how many series about the same thing, or movies about the same thing can you watch? stupid.

 

[redandguilty]

oh. wow, there are a few series about vampires out then. wasn't that one "Twilight" more popular? Kids today are so dumb... like how many series about the same thing, or movies about the same thing can you watch? stupid.

Not just kids. How many CSI shows are there? ...or medical dramas?

 

[Michchamp]

Not just kids. How many CSI shows are there? ...or medical dramas?

yeah; I know quite a few adults that read kids books, and try to justify them as some sort of legitimate art or something.

I guess it's better than it was 300 years ago, or so, when most of those people were illiterate anyway.

 

[redandguilty]

yeah; I know quite a few adults that read kids books, and try to justify them as some sort of legitimate art or something.

I guess it's better than it was 300 years ago, or so, when most of those people were illiterate anyway.

Well, if you follow Dilbert logic, reading grants you knowledge, knowledge is power, and power corrupts, so we were probably better people back then.

 

[tinselwolverine]

oh. wow, there are a few series about vampires out then. wasn't that one "Twilight" more popular? Kids today are so dumb... like how many series about the same thing, or movies about the same thing can you watch? stupid.

Yeah, vampire movies and TV shows are the new Tybo.

 

[cheeno]

Well, if you follow Dilbert logic, reading grants you knowledge, knowledge is power, and power corrupts, so we were probably better people back then.

Leave it to an engineer to bring up Dilbert.

 

[Michchamp]

Leave it to an engineer to bring up Dilbert.

it's kinda funny. I used to think it was funnier when i was younger. my dad had a bunch of the books.

a couple attorneys around here have some Dilbert cartoons posted in their offices, since some of the humor is germane to the office environment, not just engineering

side note: anybody else heard about how scott adams himself seems to have lost it a bit lately, going around and posting misogynistic rants on the internet?