Michigan 2100

[TheVictors]

Climate change and potentially irreversible circumstances sending people to Michigan by end of century ....?




Glad we bought that land Up North!


written by a buddy of mine from HS who has served public office in the TC area as well. I know this topic has come up loosely in the past.


https://www.northernexpress.com/new...07tpyZW5Rs7U6RIz-Jxwurxn3A1tgcCc5aNb-3UnLDzrw

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'll be 135. I can't wait.

 

[TheVictors]

I'll be 135. I can't wait.

the advances in nanotechnology will be amazing and you will live to see it!

 

[tomdalton22]

In 2100...I predict that Canada will be building a wall to keep us out!

 

[byco42]

So maybe by then SEC teams will travel north in December to play programs in the B1G 36.

 

[tomdalton22]

So maybe by then SEC teams will travel north in December to play programs in the B1G 36.

football will be over as we know it. Former players will sue all of the major universities due to CTE.

 

[biggunsbob]

football will be over as we know it. Former players will sue all of the major universities due to CTE.

Good we can then concentrate on the real issue of our times.
Asteroid deflecting to save the planet !

 

[byco42]

football will be over as we know it. Former players will sue all of the major universities due to CTE.

No, The Ohio Stupid University will be the lone program remaining and it, with no governing body to moderate, will play 52 weeks a year a schedule of intra-squad scrimmages against its own fan base that participates in a drawing to "Buck Up" and get eviscerated by the scholarship players each and every Saturday of the year before 100,000 frothing Buckeye fans who never leave the stadium, lest they surrender their hallowed seat to one of the 5,000,000 lurking outside to replace them. This would be considered some sort of dystopian fantasy tale in any other city, but is regarded here as the natural progession of college football that has finally some to pass.

 

[tigermud]

climate change revolt

https://www.wsj.com/articles/france-to-delay-fuel-tax-increase-after-violent-protests-1543925246

 

[sggatecl]

climate change revolt

https://www.wsj.com/articles/france-to-delay-fuel-tax-increase-after-violent-protests-1543925246

Reads more like an anti tax revolt to me.

 

[tigermud]

Reads more like an anti tax revolt to me.

Carbon tax revolt more specifically

 

[sggatecl]

Carbon tax revolt more specifically

Sure. But I'm willing to bet the tax is more important to than the why. Maybe I'm wrong and there's just that many deniers in France.

 

[tigermud]

Sure. But I'm willing to bet the tax is more important to than the why. Maybe I'm wrong and there's just that many deniers in France.

That?s probably true
Carbon taxes will never solve anything though Imo

 

[sggatecl]

That?s probably true
Carbon taxes will never solve anything though Imo

I'd be hard pressed to disagree with you.

 

[Gulo Blue]

That’s probably true
Carbon taxes will never solve anything though Imo

Revenue neutral carbon tax + renewable energy subsidy is a much better approach than cap and trade or doing nothing.

 

[Spartanmack]

That’s probably true
Carbon taxes will never solve anything though Imo

I'd be hard pressed to disagree with you.

you guys sure about that? Look at the average car size and MPG of cars in Europe vs. those in the US. We may have caught up to them or closed the gap some by now but they've been driving smaller more efficient vehicles for decades. I'm a big believer in getting rid of the corp income tax, dramatically lowering the income tax and transitioning to a consumption based tax regime. Institute a national sales tax, tie the cost to the product (for example, use tolls and gas taxes to pay for roads, bridges and tunnels). Linking the price of something directly to its consumption will impact behavior much more than the income tax does.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Corp income tax should be progressive similar to personal income tax; meaning that some large portion of small businesses shouldn't pay any. Big corporations can pay income taxes, that's fine.

 

[Spartanmack]

Corp income tax should be progressive similar to personal income tax; meaning that some large portion of small businesses shouldn't pay any. Big corporations can pay income taxes, that's fine.

just to be clear, you mean that's fine with you. I would agree that they should pay a graduated consumption tax - trucks, buses, etc should pay more than personal vehicles. I'd be OK with charging more for SUVs or single passenger cars than smaller vehicles or cars with multiple passengers. More passengers would technically be more weight per vehicle but it's less than 2 or 3 more cars for the same number of passengers.

these higher costs would get passed on to consumers and businesses that may not be direct consumers of certain infrastructure so freight and transit companies wouldn't bear all the cost themselves.

 

[sggatecl]

you guys sure about that? Look at the average car size and MPG of cars in Europe vs. those in the US. We may have caught up to them or closed the gap some by now but they've been driving smaller more efficient vehicles for decades. I'm a big believer in getting rid of the corp income tax, dramatically lowering the income tax and transitioning to a consumption based tax regime. Institute a national sales tax, tie the cost to the product (for example, use tolls and gas taxes to pay for roads, bridges and tunnels). Linking the price of something directly to its consumption will impact behavior much more than the income tax does.

If you did all of those things, fine. But they have not and it doesn't appear they plan on eliminating all the taxes you mentioned. They just piled it on.

 

[tomdalton22]

you guys sure about that? Look at the average car size and MPG of cars in Europe vs. those in the US. We may have caught up to them or closed the gap some by now but they've been driving smaller more efficient vehicles for decades. I'm a big believer in getting rid of the corp income tax, dramatically lowering the income tax and transitioning to a consumption based tax regime. Institute a national sales tax, tie the cost to the product (for example, use tolls and gas taxes to pay for roads, bridges and tunnels). Linking the price of something directly to its consumption will impact behavior much more than the income tax does.

I couldn't agree with this more. I went to Germany about 15 years ago. IIRC gas here was under $2 per gallon and there it was equivalent to about $6. Almost all of the vehicles were very small.

Fast forward a few years when gas hit $5 a gallon here. When it took $75 to fill up I was considering buying a fuel-efficient car. That only lasted a little while. I'm in the market for a new car now...fuel efficiency is a low priority for this vehicle because gas is cheap. I'll probably get a car with a V6 that gets worse mileage because it will be a quieter car.