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MSU trash talking Wisconsin now, haha

greenandwhite95 said:
uofm06marine said:
In all honesty, why do most MSU fans think they will be BCS bound in 2012? I think your defense will be very very good, but your offense is losing some key players. If your offense is not very good this upcoming season, you all will be a player in the B1G, but not a significant one.

Not trying to be a homer, just asking a serious question.

Very true. I have heard Maxwell is supposed to be a better passer than Cousins. I just think a BCS is a lofty prediction...just like I think any U of M fan that thinks U of M will go to a BCS game has very high hopes.

We are facing a very tough schedule next year. I predict the coaching staff will do everything in its power to temper the fans expectations after having a such a successful season this year.

Although, if Michigan were to beat Bama and then Notre Dame I would start getting on the BCS/B1G Champs band wagon. That is ways off yet however.


We bring back most of the Oline and all our RB's. There are BIG unknowns at QB and WR but Maxwell has had 3 years to prepare for this moment.

The WR's we bring in will have a year under their belt with the offense, just not much actual playing time. I'm hoping the first couple games gives them a chance to start to gel.

We really don't know what we have at those positons, but you never know, sometimes great things happen when you are finally given a chance ( Fitz Touissant ).

If we become totally dependent on our run game and D, we will not do good. We need the pass to compliment the others.

We'll see, we have 9 months to discus it.
 
uofm06marine said:
greenandwhite95 said:
Very true. I have heard Maxwell is supposed to be a better passer than Cousins. I just think a BCS is a lofty prediction...just like I think any U of M fan that thinks U of M will go to a BCS game has very high hopes.

We are facing a very tough schedule next year. I predict the coaching staff will do everything in its power to temper the fans expectations after having a such a successful season this year.

Although, if Michigan were to beat Bama and then Notre Dame I would start getting on the BCS/B1G Champs band wagon. That is ways off yet however.


We bring back most of the Oline and all our RB's. There are BIG unknowns at QB and WR but Maxwell has had 3 years to prepare for this moment.

The WR's we bring in will have a year under their belt with the offense, just not much actual playing time. I'm hoping the first couple games gives them a chance to start to gel.

We really don't know what we have at those positons, but you never know, sometimes great things happen when you are finally given a chance ( Fitz Touissant ).

If we become totally dependent on our run game and D, we will not do good. We need the pass to compliment the others.

We'll see, we have 9 months to discus it.

Fair enough. We really don't know how good Maxwell will be. He is my biggest worry. THEY say he has a stronger and more accurate arm than Cousins, athough what I have seen of him, his accuracy needs wrk.

UM has a lot coming back and IF their schedule wasn't so brutal, like you said, I would probably predict them at or near the top of the conference. WIth Dennard, the run game, and a good chore of WR's, the sky is the lmit for what that offense can do. I have more questions with the UM D and their loses next year more than anything. I know there is talent and year 2 of Mattisons D, but they have to overcome loses themselves.
 
wheels002 said:
Gholston is a stud without question but the loss of Worthy should he decide to leave could be huge.

Worthy will be a big loss, BUT, we were down 2 starters on the line this year and our BACKUPS did a FANTASTIC JOB. Narduzzi is REALLY ding a goo job developing players. Look at Rush this year. Freshman, filled in for injuries, 1st team B1G ten freshman. Our young LB's look even better than advertised. All of them developing very well. Honestly, I don't see any problems with this Defense next year or the following year.
 
According to the Transitive Property of football theory, Sparty shouldn't have gotten smoked by 0-2/Bowl Loss ND on prime time TV and shouldn't have lost to the Cock-smoked Corn either. Throw in a split with Wisky and you have the BigTen's ....Georgia.

Glad Sparty won just because.


Go Blue!!
 
greenandwhite95 said:
Jever4321 said:
Narduzzi is doing a goo job...

I'm affraid we lose him, SOON, IF he keeps this up.

I'd expect Penn State to send him a love letter soon. That would be an excellent fit for both parties.
 
[color=#FF6103 said:
Monster [/color]]
greenandwhite95 said:
I'm affraid we lose him, SOON, IF he keeps this up.

I'd expect Penn State to send him a love letter soon. That would be an excellent fit for both parties.

why?

Is Narduzzi another Italian American who doesn't report child abuse to the proper authorities?
 
johnny2x2x said:
I got my win today, what happens tomorrow night has no bearing on the Spartan season, unless you're talking B ball, we have a big game tomorrow night in Madison. Michigan wins, Michigan loses, doesn't matter, we beat Georgia who was favored to beat us and was an SEC East Division Champ. Nothing else matters to me, I wish the Big Ten would have done better today, tomorrow night Michigan is favored to beat Va. Tech, Va. Tech is an ACC team, but don't underestimate them, they have more speed than any team Michigan has played this year. So tomorrow night, I might even root for Big Sister, makes the B1G look better and us look better if a team we beat handily wins. Honestly, if Va. Tech is playing great I'll root for them, but if Michigan deserves it with their play they will get my support.

so what's going to happen if I underestimate them?
 
uofm06marine said:
greenandwhite95 said:
Meh, a BCS win is a BCS win. That will always be something to be proud of. We played a hell of a game today, but t's still not a BCS game. We will have to try that next year :)

In all honesty, why do most MSU fans think they will be BCS bound in 2012? I think your defense will be very very good, but your offense is losing some key players. If your offense is not very good this upcoming season, you all will be a player in the B1G, but not a significant one.

Not trying to be a homer, just asking a serious question.

Come on, man. They're a powerhouse now. They don't rebuild, they just reload in EL. They've got better players than Cousins, BJ Cunningham, Keyshawn Martin, and Keith Nicholl waiting on the bench to step in. Dantonio was only playing those guys because they were seniors.
 
greenandwhite95 said:

Fair enough. We really don't know how good Maxwell will be. He is my biggest worry. THEY say he has a stronger and more accurate arm than Cousins, athough what I have seen of him, his accuracy needs wrk.

UM has a lot coming back and IF their schedule wasn't so brutal, like you said, I would probably predict them at or near the top of the conference. WIth Dennard, the run game, and a good chore of WR's, the sky is the lmit for what that offense can do. I have more questions with the UM D and their loses next year more than anything. I know there is talent and year 2 of Mattisons D, but they have to overcome loses themselves.

The only significant loss in my opinion is Mike Martin. Vanbergen can be replaced, good player, but not great. We will miss Martin, but there always seems to be a player waiting in the wings at MIchigan to become the next great d-lineman at Michigan...Woodley, Graham, Martin. Who will be next? They should be able to replace one player on the d. Some will argue for some of the other lost players on D, but I think Martin is the only significant loss.
 
Hungry said:
uofm06marine said:
In all honesty, why do most MSU fans think they will be BCS bound in 2012? I think your defense will be very very good, but your offense is losing some key players. If your offense is not very good this upcoming season, you all will be a player in the B1G, but not a significant one.

Not trying to be a homer, just asking a serious question.

Come on, man. They're a powerhouse now. They don't rebuild, they just reload in EL. They've got better players than Cousins, BJ Cunningham, Keyshawn Martin, and Keith Nicholl waiting on the bench to step in. Dantonio was only playing those guys because they were seniors.

I know you're being sarcastic, but really, for being MSU football, we are reloading. Of course our recruiting classes aren't top 10 but they arent that bad. We have good coaches who are developing the talent. You dont win 22 games in two years without haveing some success in recruiting. You know, BJ, Keyshawn and Nichol werent always starters. They had to wait their turn, now the bench giuys get their chance. You might be surprised next year.
 
Hungry said:
greenandwhite95 said:
Fair enough. We really don't know how good Maxwell will be. He is my biggest worry. THEY say he has a stronger and more accurate arm than Cousins, athough what I have seen of him, his accuracy needs work.

UM has a lot coming back and IF their schedule wasn't so brutal, like you said, I would probably predict them at or near the top of the conference. With Dennard, the run game, and a good chore of WR's, the sky is the limit for what that offense can do. I have more questions with the UM D and their loses next year more than anything. I know there is talent and year 2 of Mattisons D, but they have to overcome loses themselves.

The only significant loss in my opinion is Mike Martin. Vanbergen can be replaced, good player, but not great. We will miss Martin, but there always seems to be a player waiting in the wings at MIchigan to become the next great d-lineman at Michigan...Woodley, Graham, Martin. Who will be next? They should be able to replace one player on the d. Some will argue for some of the other lost players on D, but I think Martin is the only significant loss.

Didn't Vanbergen have better stats than Martin this year ? I think you are underestimating your loses.
 
greenandwhite95 said:
Hungry said:
Come on, man. They're a powerhouse now. They don't rebuild, they just reload in EL. They've got better players than Cousins, BJ Cunningham, Keyshawn Martin, and Keith Nicholl waiting on the bench to step in. Dantonio was only playing those guys because they were seniors.

I know you're being sarcastic, but really, for being MSU football, we are reloading. Of course our recruiting classes aren't top 10 but they arent that bad. We have good coaches who are developing the talent. You dont win 22 games in two years without haveing some success in recruiting. You know, BJ, Keyshawn and Nichol werent always starters. They had to wait their turn, now the bench giuys get their chance. You might be surprised next year.

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm repeating what I'm hearing from a lot of MSU fans.
 
Hungry said:
greenandwhite95 said:
I know you're being sarcastic, but really, for being MSU football, we are reloading. Of course our recruiting classes aren't top 10 but they arent that bad. We have good coaches who are developing the talent. You dont win 22 games in two years without haveing some success in recruiting. You know, BJ, Keyshawn and Nichol werent always starters. They had to wait their turn, now the bench giuys get their chance. You might be surprised next year.

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm repeating what I'm hearing from a lot of MSU fans.

Well, do you think it's true ? Or is this all just luck ?
 
greenandwhite95 said:
Hungry said:
The only significant loss in my opinion is Mike Martin. Vanbergen can be replaced, good player, but not great. We will miss Martin, but there always seems to be a player waiting in the wings at MIchigan to become the next great d-lineman at Michigan...Woodley, Graham, Martin. Who will be next? They should be able to replace one player on the d. Some will argue for some of the other lost players on D, but I think Martin is the only significant loss.

Didn't Vanbergen have better stats than Martin this year ? I think you are underestimating your loses.

Are stats all that matter? WHen Martin is getting doubleteamed, Vanbergen is getting tackles. Stats don't necessarily indicate who is more important on a dline.
 
greenandwhite95 said:
Hungry said:
I'm not being sarcastic, I'm repeating what I'm hearing from a lot of MSU fans.

Well, do you think it's true ? Or is this all just luck ?

Are those the only 2 options?
 
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