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No Bounce

TheVictors

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In an odd departure from history, no "Palin Pop" or "Biden Bounce" in the polls for Romney.

So maybe what he was looking for was the "Ryan Reallllly?"

No Bounce for You!
 
Anyone that would get excited about Ryan was already solidly in the Romney camp.
 
...or should I say, so solidly against Obama, it really doesn't matter who the Republicans pick.
 
exactly.

hard to "round out the ticket" when choosing from a list of other white guys with graying hair whose platform is "anybody but Obama" (much like "anybody but Bush")

Choosing Ryan seems to acknowledge ceding certain votes, though.

Los que se hablan Espanol.
 
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exactly.

hard to "round out the ticket" when choosing from a list of other white guys with graying hair whose platform is "anybody but Obama" (much like "anybody but Bush")

Choosing Ryan seems to acknowledge ceding certain votes, though.

Los que se hablan Espanol.

Tu refereces Rubio?

(No significo el color de pelo).
 
No, Rubio would be pandering for that vote ...choosing Ryan simply means Mitt doesn't give a rat's ass.
 
he actually lost ground in Ohio and Florida since naming Ryan as runningmate.
 
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What I think is...

I think President Obama personally likes Congressman Paul Ryan.

I think Obama sees Ryan as an "up and commer" in presidential politics.

I think Ryan ain't going to be the next Vice President.

I think Ryan ain't going away after that, for sure.

And I think Obama thinks that too.

I think Obama thinks - "wow - I was a pretty young president - definitely a transitional president, as I once referred to one Ronald Wilson Reagan..." castigated by fellow party members including his own vice president for that, but we can re-live that on another day...

"Four years from now, I hope to be welcoming the next president into the presidency, as I enter into the best fucking job so gracefully created for any human being, the job of being a former president..."

And Obama doesn't give a single fuck if the president who succeeds him is a Republican or a Democrat.

Evidence?

He picked Joe Biden.

And Obama won't be at all surprised to be escorted to Marine One, a little over four years from now, on his way to Dulles, to be flown later to write his memoirs, and hang with the former presidents mssrs. Bush and Clinton and Carter (and he'll certainly hope the rest of them will be just a memory by then) by one President Paul Ryan.

That's just what I think.

I think President Obama personally likes Congressman Paul Ryan.
 
If Elizabeth Warren beats Scott Brown she could be the Dem who gets the nomination in 2016.
 
It's gonna be a fun night, come November 6th, huh...?


you Sir are correct...especially now with Ryan on the ticket , it's become a total idealogical choice.

still think Obama wins....Romneys electoral path is just to difficult.
 
I think we have yet to see the "Black Swan" for the respective campaigns.


There is either some huge gaffe that hasn't happened or the presumption of thorough vetting is premature for Ryan.

I agree with you, Tinsel and frankly, I like Paul for some of his policies but then again, I'm a complex person. A mystery, wrapped in a riddle who wants to learn more about policy and positions and not vote based on what Sean Hannity or Keith Olbermann has to say.

[cue theee smith's reply about Olbermann not being on MSNBC any more because he thinks anyone who has any political opinion derives it from watching cable TV]
 
It will either be President Robama or Obomney in 2012, the year that the nation sank like the Titanic. Because it doesn't matter on which side the ship of state is gashed. The Rebublicrats will all will retain their cushy seats in the Capital building, their committee chairs, their sycophant staffers, their lobbyists...and were the ones footing the bill!

It's political welfare.
 
It will either be President Robama or Obomney in 2012, the year that the nation sank like the Titanic. Because it doesn't matter on which side the ship of state is gashed. The Rebublicrats will all will retain their cushy seats in the Capital building, their committee chairs, their sycophant staffers, their lobbyists...and were the ones footing the bill!

It's political welfare.

^ It is closer to this. ^

. . . but Slick is right about one thing. Romney's electoral path is a difficult one, even when being optomistic for the Republicans. I'll look again after the conventions.
 
If Romney forged his own path rather than one parallel to the Bower In Chief, he'd have a shot.
 
Romney's electoral path is difficult mainly due to Romney himself.
 
Romney's electoral path is difficult mainly due to Romney himself.

Pretty big over-simplification. GW's was made harder by himself and he still won didn't he? That statement can't possibly have come from actually looking at the electoral map as it stands (based on reputable polls).
 
Pretty big over-simplification. GW's was made harder by himself and he still won didn't he? That statement can't possibly have come from actually looking at the electoral map as it stands (based on reputable polls).

the conspiracy theorist in me thinks it's all a charade: you get into office, you take a "hands off" approach to the defense budget & the intelligence agencies' budgets, and refuse to put any teeth into any sort of Wall Street regulation, and the powers that be will make sure you get a second term. They will want you to have a second term.

Kerry in '04 ran a terrible campaign... Romney in '12 is running a terrible campaign. In both cases, the incumbent is pretty much a shoe-in.

I just wonder if Romney actually knows the fix is in. Kerry seemed to... he allowed his service record in Vietnam to be dragged through the mud, while Bush - who's record was murky as shit, if not outright disgraceful - was allowed to skate.

more: there is evidence that the NYT, (or it might actually be proven by this point, not sure) that much-vilified bastion of the "liberal" media, agreed to sit on the story of Bush's domestic spying in violation of FISA until after the '04 election was in the bag (they eventually broke the story in '05).

now, we have an incumbent Dem, unpopular among his own base because he's essentially reneged on every campaign promise he made to the left, and universally hated from day one by the right, going to win the election because his politically opponent is a wooden-headed, habitually insulting prick... and his party selected HIM of all people during the midst of an extended recession seeing income disparity at increasingly high levels, consistently high unemployment, stagnating wages for the middle class...

yeah...
 
the conspiracy theorist in me thinks it's all a charade: you get into office, you take a "hands off" approach to the defense budget & the intelligence agencies' budgets, and refuse to put any teeth into any sort of Wall Street regulation, and the powers that be will make sure you get a second term. They will want you to have a second term.

Kerry in '04 ran a terrible campaign... Romney in '12 is running a terrible campaign. In both cases, the incumbent is pretty much a shoe-in.

I just wonder if Romney actually knows the fix is in. Kerry seemed to... he allowed his service record in Vietnam to be dragged through the mud, while Bush - who's record was murky as shit, if not outright disgraceful - was allowed to skate.

more: there is evidence that the NYT, (or it might actually be proven by this point, not sure) that much-vilified bastion of the "liberal" media, agreed to sit on the story of Bush's domestic spying in violation of FISA until after the '04 election was in the bag (they eventually broke the story in '05).

now, we have an incumbent Dem, unpopular among his own base because he's essentially reneged on every campaign promise he made to the left, and universally hated from day one by the right, going to win the election because his politically opponent is a wooden-headed, habitually insulting prick... and his party selected HIM of all people during the midst of an extended recession seeing income disparity at increasingly high levels, consistently high unemployment, stagnating wages for the middle class...

yeah...

. . . and after all that . . . wouldn't you be oh so surprised if enough happened to swing the tide and he actually wins? What will be your excuse then?

It has happened - it will happen again. The better man doesn't always win the election. You're first paragraph is pretty on target though - you don't get re-elected by making political enemies your first few months in office.
 
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