Not one RNC presidential candidate plans on attending NCLR Latino convention

[turok]

"The nation?s largest Latino advocacy group says it invited every presidential candidate to annual convention next week. Not a single Republican plans to attend, a spokesman said."


"Democrats Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state, and Martin O?Malley, former governor of Maryland, will appear at a lunch Monday in Kansas City, Mo., before the National Council of La Raza, an advocacy and civil rights organization for Latinos. Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont originally had a conflict but now plans to appear as well, his spokesman said."




A little bit surprised that Jeb! @ least didn't do so, since his spouse Columba is Mexican-American, and their children are half Latino, but apparently not.


Seems like only until after the RNC's POTUS candidate is chosen, will he (or more unlikely "she") along with his/her Veep pick, also campaign and stump for the minority votes, other than blacks. But with all of the angry hubbub surrounding Trump's very public and humiliating insults of Mexican immigrants, I have to believe that it could become much more difficult this go-round, with the possible exception of converted Fundie Latinos, who also want their extremist Christian beliefs to be pushed further into the political arena, ala their counterparts being Fundie whites.


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/...o-skip-la-raza-gathering-of-latino-activists/

 

[tomdalton22]

breaking news!

 

[byco42]

Just go there, tell 'em what you think and deal with the response.

And I'd ask them to qualify these remarks attributed to La Raza:

“Around the year 2040, whites will become a minority in the United States and, believe me, it will be payback time.”

Related in name to The National Council of La Raza is the political organization La Raza Unida Party (RUP), roughly translated as “the party of the [mestizo] race.” To gain a sense of its anti-Western flavor, read the quotes of its founder Jos? ?ngel Guti?rrez:

“We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we’re a new Mestizo nation.”

“Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes…”

“We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him.

I have to wonder about the pragmatism of the Democratic candidates attending.

 

[Michchamp]

"related in name..."

OOOH Scary!

We have to eliminate them before they get us! Don't mess with Texas.

 

[Michchamp]

hasn't the line about "whites" becoming a minority been used every decade going back to like 1800 by the same race-pandering assholes among every ethnic group (among whites, blacks, latinos, etc.)?

birth rates and growth level off once a group becomes assimilated anyway. and I would guess more often than not, when some minority intermarries with a white person, their kids identify as white.

these projections are always based on a lot of assumptions as well, namely that birth rates and current trends will remain constant. and they're a few years behind... when our son was born 2 years ago, the hospital staff told us they've been seeing a recent "baby boom" that started that year of all the Gen Xers and older millenials that put marriage and kids off til their late 20s/early 30s. I've never seen that referenced in any of these scare-projections, and doubt these assholes are taking the most up-to-date stats when they rant and rave about shifting minority status to push their own angle on the greater public.

personally, I don't really give a shit who becomes, remains, or gains minority or majority status, but I doubt that over the next 20 years, things will change as dramatically as the grifters are projecting (and always have been projecting). As a number of third world countries improve their standing vis-a-vis the USA, and the USA continues to become a hereditary oligarchy like Koch Bros., Waltons, and their ilk want it to be, the incentives to move here for the poor and disadvantaged abroad will decrease.

if anything, a lot of Mexicans at least have been moving back to Mexico; that's the general trend. Most of the immigration coming from south of the border involves other Central Americans (Guatemalans, Nicarauguans, Hondurans, etc.)

 

[Michchamp]

*steps down off soapbox*

 

[byco42]

Point: Incendiary language is apparently acceptable when it flows the other way, even in this day and age of retroactive retribution for making claims and statements.

 

[TheVictors]

In a few more decades, this wonderful melting pot called America will be populated by people who don't look like they do now ...you won't have pale-faced, blue-eyed devils running the country because they will have married (reproduced with) those of 'minority' descent..

In California the Latino population dwarfs others and in Denver Public Schools, 57% of the nearly 100,000 students are Latino (compared to 22% White and 14% Black)

The Western US is already dominated by a Latino population as are states like Texas and Florida for obvious reasons.

 

[byco42]

In a few more decades, this wonderful melting pot called America will be populated by people who don't look like they do now ...you won't have pale-faced, blue-eyed devils running the country because they will have married (reproduced with) those of 'minority' descent..

In California the Latino population dwarfs others and in Denver Public Schools, 57% of the nearly 100,000 students are Latino (compared to 22% White and 14% Black)

The Western US is already dominated by a Latino population as are states like Texas and Florida for obvious reasons.

At Cal Berkeley, you can't say the phrase "Melting Pot."

 

[TheVictors]

More of a 'tossed salad' ...that's what they said about UM

lots of diversity, just not much integration..

 

[tinselwolverine]

"The nation?s largest Latino advocacy group says it invited every presidential candidate to annual convention next week. Not a single Republican plans to attend, a spokesman said."

The type of people of Latino/Hispanic heritage associated with La Raza aren't likely to vote for a Republican anyway.

It's like the way no Democratic candidates are likely to go and speak at Bob Jones University - what would be the point?

 

[byco42]

More of a 'tossed salad' ...that's what they said about UM

lots of diversity, just not much integration..

I see that little has changed in 40 years.

 

[Michchamp]

actually, there's even less diversity at UM now, right? Since the Supreme Court torpedoed the University's AA policies, I thought the numbers of African Americans had dropped significantly.

speaking of AA, there's apparently another case coming before the Court, this time involving UT-Austin, link: "Despite the “taking slots from people who deserve them” narrative so beloved by opponents of affirmative action, the “victims” are highly likely to be these kinds of very marginal cases, coming from the part of the applications process where distinctions are essentially arbitrary. Using diversity is a criteria in making these otherwise arbitrary distinctions isn’t bad policy and doesn’t violate the Constitution."

i.e. ... if you're even remotely within the end of the applicant pool where you'd find yourself losing a seat at a university because of AA, you probably weren't going to get in anyway. Try again. Or go to MSU (or in this case, Texas A&M). Hey, they're good schools too, right?

 

[turok]

The type of people of Latino/Hispanic heritage associated with La Raza aren't likely to vote for a Republican anyway.

It's like the way no Democratic candidates are likely to go and speak at Bob Jones University - what would be the point?

Well, I wouldn't use that comparison b/c this entire minority is only going to grow in size and influence over the decades, and the GOP is going to have to address that sooner or later. If for example, Ultra Orthodox Jews were being publicly insulted as being Zionist pigs by a Democratic candidate, wouldn't many Reformed Jews also take offense, especially if they were being ignored by every other Democratic candidate, including a couple who were also married to a Jew?

Although there are likely many millions of US citizens who will vote rationally, there are also many milions who will vote emotionally as well.

I have read many bigoted and very insulting posts by rightwingers online who are now attacking fellow conservative Nikki Haley for the removal of their precious symbol of "Southern Heritage", nvm that their flag isn't even representative of the ones that actually were flown by the CSA. No love lost amongst blatant sociopaths, obviously.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Well, I wouldn't use that comparison b/c this entire minority is only going to grow in size and influence over the decades, and the GOP is going to have to address that sooner or later. If for example, Ultra Orthodox Jews were being publicly insulted as being Zionist pigs by a Democratic candidate, wouldn't many Reformed Jews also take offense, especially if they were being ignored by every other Democratic candidate, including a couple who were also married to a Jew?

Well...no Republican is using ethnic slurs towards them...just not attending the convention.

That SAID:

I've been double checking the history of the NCLA and Jose Angel Gutierrez; and it's beginning to look to me like there might be a pretty broadly held misconception - which is what I had understood to be the case was too - that Jose Angel Gutierrez founded the NCLA; instead, it appears that he founded Partido Nacional de La Raza Unida; an actual third political party that existed during the 70s; which as I research is appearing to be non-associated with the NCLA (and the party no longer exists).

Gutierrez's quotes indicate that he did indeed hold Reconquista sentiments - that the portions of the United States that had been colonized by Spain and were part of Mexico should ultimately secede from the United States and become re-Unifed with Mexico.

What do you do as a candidate? You run to the party base to get the nomination, then run back to the center in the general election - Politics 101 for both parties.

So for now, the Republican candidates and their strategists might be thinking, rather than to try to explain to the voters they're trying to win in the primaries that La Raza really isn't the subversive, secessionist organization they may have been painted to be, and possibly alienate those voters - just pretend La Raza doesn't exist for the time being; then the nominee might reach out to them later on in the general election campaign.