Only Nixon could go to China...

[byco42]

No interest. Boers are like American Rednecks x 1000.

More challenging for you. HEH.

 

[jwlcosu]

like I said above, it was about the money.

Mugged by reality. Good socialist, good. Moving to the red state to make some bread. No dummies coming out of Michigan Law.

 

[Michchamp]

Mugged by reality. Good socialist, good. Moving to the red state to make some bread. No dummies coming out of Michigan Law.

right, because wanting to provide for my family and receive fair compensation for my labor is so out of line with my political views.

also, I didn't go to Michigan Law.

 

[jwlcosu]

I didn't go to Michigan Law.

Well that explains a lot. Like I said, no dummies coming out of Michigal Law.

 

[Thumb]

Well that explains a lot. Like I said, no dummies coming out of Michigal Law.

LoL

 

[hailhail]

And yeah, it's pretty much what I thought. Houston (at least) isn't really redneck-y on account of all the transplants... but it is crass. All subdivisions, and strip malls. No real neighborhoods in the traditional sense of the word. No sidewalks, not walkable, need a car to get anywhere or do anything. You can practically smell the hydrocarbons just walking around.

You fly into George Bush International Airport, get your rental car (not one of them hybrids neither), and you burn gas. Also you better be some kind of Christian.

So it's not much different from Metro Detroit where you grew up then? Probably worse, I'd guess. Congrats on the job though!

I have one year left of school (thank god), and just applied to a firm with branches in Bethesda, Austin, Orlando, and LA. Would do Bethesda in a heartbeat and consider living in Austin--have never been there but would check it out at least. HELL NO to LA and Orlando. I'd like to live in a "real" city after grad school after more or less 26 continuous years of Detroit/Ann Arbor.

 

[TheVictors]

LA is a real city.

Orlando sucks

 

[KAWDUP]

Thanks, Bob.

And yeah, it's pretty much what I thought. Houston (at least) isn't really redneck-y on account of all the transplants... but it is crass. All subdivisions, and strip malls. No real neighborhoods in the traditional sense of the word. No sidewalks, not walkable, need a car to get anywhere or do anything. You can practically smell the hydrocarbons just walking around.

You fly into George Bush International Airport, get your rental car (not one of them hybrids neither), and you burn gas. Also you better be some kind of Christian.

silver lining: KAWDUP, Gulo_Blue, and Byco can't say to me anymore "Durrrr, stop making fun of the south. you don't know what it's really like here. It's nice, and the people are educated and cultured despite what you think. Stop being so mean."

Despite what you think?!? I'm educated and cultured and I live in the South so you just have to develop new stereotypes. I'm sure you can do it.

It is a culture shock, but something I'm afraid you get used to. You'll be calling groups of people ya'll, and blessing people's heart before you know it.

Let's hope the better job makes you less of an ornery poop head. :*)

In all seriousness, it is always tough to pick up roots and move, and I wish you the best of luck. The biggest drawback of all is less trips back for Michigan games. That is something I will NEVER get used to.

 

[hailhail]

LA is a real city.

Orlando sucks

I know plenty of people love LA, and I actually have a ton of family out there. Personally, I can't stand the city or the people. It's just not my place.

I'm looking to live in DC or Chicago most actively, but would also consider other places of course.

 

[Michchamp]

So it's not much different from Metro Detroit where you grew up then? Probably worse, I'd guess. Congrats on the job though!

I have one year left of school (thank god), and just applied to a firm with branches in Bethesda, Austin, Orlando, and LA. Would do Bethesda in a heartbeat and consider living in Austin--have never been there but would check it out at least. HELL NO to LA and Orlando. I'd like to live in a "real" city after grad school after more or less 26 continuous years of Detroit/Ann Arbor.

thanks.

LA is at least big enough to find your "niche"... the same can't be said about Orlando. But I agree with you on LA... been there quite a bit and never really felt comfortable there.

if I was single, or at least sans offspring and didnt plan on having any for a while, I'd stick to one of the few cities in the country where you're not automobile dependant... Chicago, NYC, DC, or I guess SFO (if youre a rich techie). all have lots to do, and you don't have to spend hours in your car + gas to see and do it. plus you can drink as much as you want without being worried about getting a DUI, etc.

for me, coming from the Midwest, Chicago was the best option... not too crowded, & the people are more grounded in reality than the DC or NYC crowds. Personally i never liked DC... too many of the people you meet are in politics, are hypercompetitive, and lame to be around, & there was a shocking amount of random criminal violence that seemed to exist. i know plenty of people that got jumped/robbed in Chicago over the years but they usually were stupid & could have avoided it by not being so reckless.

though granted I know plenty of people like me from UM that ended up in DC like it just fine.

We have a friend doing her residency in Houston who hates it, hates the bar scene, said everything is too spread out/not cool. Detroit sounded like more fun. (I don't think the bar scene in Detroit and the hipper suburbs is that bad... I always enjoyed myself).

but really with two young kids we don't go out much anymore, to drink, eat, see a play or movie or concert, and value convenience over culture right now. And our kids are young enough we can always move back to The Midwest/or East Coast before they get too involved in school. Houston sucks but the job came along at the right time, and I couldnt turn it down.

 

[Michchamp]

although one caveat on Chicago... it is getting expensive as hell... rent in the desirable neighborhoods are insane, and the borderline ones are getting there. and a lot of the places that were hip when i was still going out have turned into fratty sports bars.

if you're okay with a "vintage" apartment, you can still find some deals in some places... the old Polish guy who held on to his family graystone and rents it out undermarket, or some random place with an odd layout or near the El tracks.

of course if youre making enough money you can just live wherever the hell you want, downtown, River North, Gold Coast, Lincoln Park, etc, and pay $2000-$3000 a month for a place. or settle for roommates.